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Salt not working through into the system

We have always regularly filled up our salt reservoir. But despite having not filled it up for ages the salt is now not ever needing to be filled up as it is full to bursting. Why isn't the salt working through the system? Is there a bit that's blocked that I don't know about? Any help and I'd be grateful!!


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  • Finn Fordham May 25, 2008

    Thank you ! I like the idea of soft persuasion but I'm not sure what you mean by 'outside of the salt tank' - is that just the area around the hole into which I pour the salt? I can't imagine how this send enough of a tremor to break any salt bridge. The salt that's in there at present is not dissolved, but there's a lot of liquid around it. i/e it's not so dry, not dry enough perhaps to form a salt bridge ??
    I'll keep trying. THanks! But if you have any furhter illumination, other ideas, please let me know

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Salt will sometimes "bridge up" at the bottom of the tank.
Sometimes a "soft" persuasion to break up the bridge is required to get the salt to settle down where the water will dissolve it.
I generaaly use a rubber mallet to lightly tap on the outside of the salt tank. If successful, you can hear the salt bridge break up and fall to the bottom and the salt above will start to settle also. Once the salt has settled and it is using the salt, then keep the reservoir full to keep other bridging from forming.
If you are unable to break up the bridge, then the unit may have to disconnected and harsher means used to break up the bridge.
I would recommend that a technician perform this task.

Posted on May 25, 2008

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thanks
let me know more.
mark

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