Question about American Standard Cadet 3 Right Height Elongated Toilet by - ADA Compliant

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Just installed the cadet 3 and here is what is happening. First let me say that the toilet it replaced was working good. The water filled very slow and the bowl would not fill much. I messed with the fluidmaster valve as per directions and it did not help. I then replaced it and now it fill quickly, so that part is fixed but the bowl does not seem to have enough water in it (the tank is full to 1/2" below overflow tube) and when you flush it the flapper closes so fast it does not let the tank empty completly. I have adjusted the chain every way possible and even pulled it by hand all the way up and it still slaps closed before the tank is empty. So the 2 problems now are not enough water in the bowl and the flapper slaps closed to quickly. Remember this is a brand new toilet.

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The amount of water in any toilet bowl is determined by its construction and no tank adjustment will ever change that. American Standard has a history of having small water surface areas in their low or ultra low flush toilets. Take a large container of water and pour directly into the bowl. If the ending level remains the same, then that is the manufactured level for your toilet.

Not all tanks completely discharge all of the water when flushed. Measure 1.5 gallons of water into a container. Turn off your water supply to the toilet then flush normally. Replace the water in the tank with your premeasured amount and observe this new water level. You might be surprised to find it is at the same level it always is. Since water weighs more than 8 pounds per gallon, one concept used in todays toilets is to have more than 1.5 gallons of water in the tank and use the extra weight push the water past the flapper at a faster rate while designing the flapper to drop after only 1.5 gallons have passed through.

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