Question about Hunter Ceiling Fan Light Switch Control

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I purchased a ceiling fan with a light kit to replace one that did not have a lite kit. When I removed it, the fan had white to white, black to red, green to green, with the black wire capped off from junc box. My new fan has a Blue, Black, White and green. According to the manual, it said to connect the fan motor white to white, the fan motor black to the supply black (hot).. I connected the fan motor black to the red coming out of the box (thinking that was the same one that was connected to the old fan). Then it said to connect the blue for the light kit to the black household supply wire which I connected to the one the black that was capped in the ceiling box. The fan is too high off the ground to control with pull chain so I purchased the Hunter 27183 Ceiling Fan and Light Control which has a black, blue, red and green. In the box for the switch, the black wire was capped. One wire from the old control went to the red and the other wire went to another black from within the box but not from the ceiling. The white wire was connected to other whites so I did not touch. For the new fan I connected the black from the control (diagram says hot) to the red in the junction box, the red from the control (light), to the black in the box that was capped (comes from ceiling box) and the blue from the control the the other black in the juncture box. Greens to greens. The fan works fine but the light switch only works when the fan is run on high... on lower speeds the light goes very faint. Puzzled what to do

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  • rmoreno01 Sep 27, 2010

    Could it have been that easy ... nope. So I did as instructed. Connected the blue wire to the red and left the black capped on the ceiling fan. Now the fan only spins on the controls highest speed, no other speed is available and the bulbs only turn on the same high setting. However, the bulb does not dim as it did before.

    I left the connections in the junction box the same as before.

  • rmoreno01 Sep 28, 2010

    Yes I did replace the fan. And there are 4 wires as you describe. They do appear to come directly down to the box. In fact I could not find the breaker to turn power off when replacing the fan... well I could have tried harder. The white comes down and is tucked in the back of the box with others. Not sure if the pics helped at all.

  • rmoreno01 Sep 28, 2010

    K np ... All green wires connect to the bare wire either in box or ceiling the blue wire is connected to a different black within the box where the old control was connected. It is not the same black coming from the ceiling.

  • rmoreno01 Sep 28, 2010

    Thought this might be a more thorough response to the wall control question.

  • rmoreno01 Sep 28, 2010

    Sent scan of diagram... which I found to be less than helpful..

  • rmoreno01 Sep 28, 2010

    I am in no hurry and just want to get it right. You have been very responsive. I did not have time to implement your suggestion. Will try tonight. I can certainly understand where you are coming from. Will send you a note tonight. This is very detailed so I appreciate your time more than you know.

  • rmoreno01 Sep 28, 2010

    OK so all wires connected and the fan speed works ok. Now the light when the dimmer is all the way down in what would be the off position glows low. The only way to turn it off entirely is to use the bottom slide switch that kills both fan and light. Kind of a master on off. But other than that does work independently. Thoughts? One more thing. The green at ceiling does not have a metal box to connect to as there is no box it is merely the conduit coming through a beam 15 ft where the sloping ceilings meet. kinda like an A. But it is connected to greens at the control switch

  • rmoreno01 Sep 29, 2010

    Nope when I said conduit I just meant the wire no metal casing so no grounding up top... could try a different one.

  • rmoreno01 Sep 29, 2010

    Yes it clicks but light stays glowing. I can try and exchange or should I get a whole different kind.

  • rmoreno01 Sep 29, 2010

    Ok will now have to do in the morning... Appreciate the help . Let me know when I over extend my welcome. Be good..

  • rmoreno01 Sep 30, 2010

    OK ... you nailed it was the control switch ... works like a charm. I sincerely appreciate your time, help, patience and advice. Mil Gracias.

  • rmoreno01 Sep 30, 2010

    You guys rock. Zaraki my consultant was very thorough, clear and responsive. Great service made better by great people.

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That is kinda confusing, but it sounds like the blue wire for the light kit should also be connected together with the red supply wire for the fan motor from the ceiling wires, and not the capped black wire. That is if the two wires to the fan motor are the white and red wires from the ceiling. Normally the white wire is a neutral wire and the black is the field wire and they both are alternating current "hot" wires, and the green wires are grounded to earth ground only.

Let me know if I understood that right about the wires from the ceiling, and let me know if you require any further assistance.




See if this diagram is correct

I purchased a ceiling fan - f1d3586.jpg

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  • Zaraki Sep 28, 2010

    Did you replace the fan, and the wires from the ceiling are white and black, green, and also a separate red wire that all run together between where the fan is attached to the ceiling and the wall where the fan control switch is mounted?

  • Zaraki Sep 28, 2010

    The images are very useful and thank you very much for them, and I am figuring out the wiring now and I am making you a wiring diagram, so I might have another question for you before I am done with it and and can upload it for you, and it might take a little while to finish but it should not take that long to figure it out, and also where are the green wires connected to, and where does it and the blue wire connect to in the upper image that you sent?

  • Zaraki Sep 28, 2010

    Can you tell me what the directions say for the red and blue wires from the new wall mounted fan control switch and what they say they should be connected to.

  • Zaraki Sep 28, 2010

    The white wire from the ceiling connected to the other white (neutral) wires in the wall switch housing is correct, the Blue wire from the control switch should be connected to the Black wire from the ceiling, and the Red wire from the control switch should be connected to the Red wire the is from the ceiling, and the Black wire from the control switch should be connected to the other black (hot) wire that comes from the wall mounting box and not from the ceiling. The green wires are also correct.



    The fan should have the Black wire from the ceiling connected to the Black wire on the fan, and the White wire from the ceiling connected to the White wire on the fan, and the Red wire from the ceiling should be connected to the Blue wire on the fan, and the green is correct.



    It would be a good idea to also confirm that those are the wires that run between the wall switch and the ceiling.



    Also, the fan control switch on the wall will now control the fan and the lighting, so be sure that the manual controls for both the fan and the lights that the chains control are set to high or maximum for the wall mounted control switch to properly control the fan speeds and lighting.



    Here is the wiring diagram that I made for you, and let me know if you require any further assistance.




  • Zaraki Sep 28, 2010

    This is about as thorough as it can get, and it might not have been fast enough for you, but figuring out the wiring of an un-known home is not a very simple task, and it can take a little time to properly sort things out.

  • Zaraki Sep 28, 2010

    Sorry for the type error, that should read in the top paragraph "and the Red wire from the control switch should be connected to the Red wire that is from the ceiling". The wiring diagram that I made did take a little time to make, but I assure you that it will be correct and you should not have a problem wiring in that fan and switch. The wiring diagram that you sent for that control switch was atrocious, and you would think that they would make something a little more user friendly instead of something that even a wiring technician would have trouble to figure out, and that is really one of the worst diagrams that I have ever seen, and I will also bet that they did not pay someone too much for it either.

  • Zaraki Sep 29, 2010

    That sounds like a problem with the dimmer switch side of the fan control switch, and the fan control switch might be faulty, however since there is a separate on/off switch that just might be the way that switch functions, and if the control switch is faulty or thought to be then it would be a good idea to exchange it if possible, also did the directions describe the operation of the fan control switch, and the fan motor should have the green wire grounded to the metal conduit (hopefully the conduit is metal) if there is no other metal place for a ground, and a ground clamp similar to what is used for grounding roof-top antennas should work for that.

  • Zaraki Sep 29, 2010

    Also, when you slide the dimmer switch slide all the way down you should feel the slider click or lock into an off position or setting if it does have one, or does the slider for the dimmer just slide smoothly up and down all the way without clicking or locking into an off position?

  • Zaraki Sep 29, 2010

    That definitely sounds like a faulty fan control switch, and I would give it a chance and exchange it first before actually condemning that fan control switch.

  • Zaraki Sep 29, 2010

    I will help you to the best of my abilities to solve your problem until the problem is solved or I can no longer be of any further assistance, and I do believe that exchanging that fan control switch will solve the final problem with the dimmer part of the fan control switch.

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