Same as everyone else.. It is a brand new machine. Used 3-4 times. rethreaded, tried everything. the thread is going around the outside of the bobbin case and tangling and making a thread mess on the underside of the fabric.
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Re: thread tangles around shuttle
Either the thread is not in the take up lever or it is not in the tension. Rethread the machine. Raise the presser foot and pull on the thread between the tension and take up. It should be loose. Lower the presser foot, pull on the thread between the tension and take up lever. It should be tighter. Make sure the thread is in the slot of the take up lever and pulled to the front of the lever.
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basically the problem comes from incorrect thread tensions
the main thread responsible is the needle thread as the tension is far too loose
tighten up that tension and it makes the needle on the up stroke pull the thread around the bobbin carrier and collects the bobbin thread and pulls it up to the material
with the needle thread too loose the needle thread is wrapped around the bobbin carrier again giving you the 3 threads ( 2 needle threads and 1 bobbin thread and the tangle jams the bobbin movement
It sounds like the lower shuttle is out of place. You should be able to take out the bobbin case and unlatch the shuttle. It will probably be in 2 pieces. Clean out the dust behind it and replace the shuttle pieces. You may have to fiddle with it a little to get them back in place. Then you can test it by manually turning the wheel. Make sure the bobbin is placed into the bobbin case and that the bobbin turns in the direction that you pull the thread.
Unthread the machine fully. Remove the bobbin. Is the bobbin thread the same as the top thread? Is it a Quality thread (yes, cheapie thread can give big issues!!) Do you have several different threads wound onto the bobbin?? Is the bobbin thread wound on quite tight? If you push your finger nail into the thread wound onto the bobbin, it must not feel soft or spongy. Check if there is any roughness / burr on the any part of the shuttle hook. If so, remove it with 800 grade wet and dry abrasive or similar. Put in a NEW needle as per user manual specs (not a 'new' one you used before 'just for a little bit'.!) REPEAT - put in a NEW needle - amuse me!!. Place the bobbin into the bobbin holder (the CORRECT direction - yes there is a Right and a Wrong direction!), thread it ready to put back into the machine. BEFORE you do, hold onto the thread tail and let the bobbin and bobbin case dangle. Thread should slip thru when you give a gentle pull upwards. If no slip, loosen the tension on the tension finger a LITTLE. If it slides down easy, tighten it a little. Fit the bobbin into the machine. Lift the presser foot (this releases the top thread tension discs) Check there are no bits of thread or fluff between the tension discs Rethread the top thread - check the thread path is 100% correct. Hold onto the end of the needle thread and draw up the bobbin thread. Hold both threads, start to sew - check the result. Tip : If you use a different color bobbin thread (same brand etc etc) it will help you to see more easily what is going on. You should be seeing some of the bobbin thread color on the top side of the sewing. If not, INCREASE top tension a little - retry.If there is a lot showing, decrease top tension. Good luck
Clean out the bobbin area if there are any thread tangles there.
Refer to the maintenance section of the manual - see the configuration of the bobbin case and shuttle race? The bobbin case as an extending arm and the race a notch. When inserting the bobbin case into the shuttle, turn the handwheel so the needle is at it's highest position. Then lift the lever on the back of the bobbin case and insert the cast into the shuttle, arm pointing straight up toward the bed of the sewing machine.
Now thread the machine with the presser foot up - always - and see if the tangling stops.
When you forget to lift the presser foot before threading the machine, the tension control does not open to capture the thread. Then when you begin to sew, the top thread has no tension, and the bobbin thread, which does have tension, pulls the top thread to the bottom in messy loops.
Sounds like timing of hook/needle. The needle should go down, a mechanism in the bobbin area moves to sweep the top thread around to pick up the bottom thread. Suggest taking it to a service technician, preferrably one authorized to repair your brand of machine. Check website for your brand and it might list authorized dealers close to you. Good luck.
Check to see if the lower thread be tangled. Also, the bobbin could be threaded improperly in the shuttle hook. Rethread the bobbin in the shuttle hook.
How to detangle a thread---
When a machine stops operation due to tangled thread, do not turn the pulley by force. If the pulley is turned by force then, lower thread might not be picked up correctly and stitches might not be formed correctly.
If threads get tangled, remove a needle plate and cut the tangled threads by scissors or cutter.
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To address my needle thread tangling (horribly) in the bobbin compartment, I rethreaded the bobbin. I cleaned the bobbin and the feeder feet, I changed the bobbin and the thread. I changed the tension on the needle thread and the bobbin thread. NO FIX! Then, I changed the needle - the problem was fixed instantly. I sewed awhile and then put the original needle back in. No problem. I think perhaps that the problem is being caused by the needle getting out of alignment somehow during sewing. If you are having the same issue, try it. It can't hurt!
are u talking about 3-4 uses from being a new machine or is this a machine you aquired,,,,alot of times the machine can be off timing, if this is not the case always try fully unthreading and rethreading and please use rayon or polyester thread, plus make sure you have the bobbin case in correctly