Question about Hayward SAND FILTER, PRO SERIES

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After backwashing and turning on the filter back on, brown water comes out of the lines back into the pool. What is causing this?

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  • vincelori Sep 18, 2010

    Please excuse my ignorance on this, but we are not the original owner of the house, and I'm not sure what they did. However, after taking a closer look at our sand filter, I noticed that the only part that looks like it is a Hayward Sand Filter is the tank the holds the sand. The motor and such are from KB Pool supplies, which is no longer in business. The actual motor is located off to the side, hence all the white pvc pipes that are coming out of the sand tank. I do see two valves that look similar to the image you sent me, however neither of them has any markings on them other than the word inlet. If I ask a local pool tech to take a look at my unit, should they be able to figure if we have the ability to rinse the valve prior to going back to filter mode?

  • vincelori Sep 18, 2010

    Please excuse my ignorance on this, but we are not the original owner of the house, and I'm not sure what they did. However, after taking a closer look at our sand filter, I noticed that the only part that looks like it is a Hayward Sand Filter is the tank the holds the sand. The motor and such are from KB Pool supplies, which is no longer in business. The actual motor is located off to the side, hence all the white pvc pipes that are coming out of the sand tank. I do see two valves that look similar to the image you sent me, however neither of them has any markings on them other than the word inlet. If I ask a local pool tech to take a look at my unit, should they be able to figure if we have the ability to rinse the valve prior to going back to filter mode?

  • vincelori Sep 18, 2010

    Please excuse my ignorance on this, but we are not the original owner of the house, and I'm not sure what they did. However, after taking a closer look at our sand filter, I noticed that the only part that looks like it is a Hayward Sand Filter is the tank the holds the sand. The motor and such are from KB Pool supplies, which is no longer in business. The actual motor is located off to the side, hence all the white pvc pipes that are coming out of the sand tank. I do see two valves that look similar to the image you sent me, however neither of them has any markings on them other than the word inlet. If I ask a local pool tech to take a look at my unit, should they be able to figure if we have the ability to rinse the valve prior to going back to filter mode?

  • vincelori Sep 18, 2010

    Please excuse my ignorance on this, but we are not the original owner of the house, and I'm not sure what they did. However, after taking a closer look at our sand filter, I noticed that the only part that looks like it is a Hayward Sand Filter is the tank the holds the sand. The motor and such are from KB Pool supplies, which is no longer in business. The actual motor is located off to the side, hence all the white pvc pipes that are coming out of the sand tank. I do see two valves that look similar to the image you sent me, however neither of them has any markings on them other than the word inlet. If I ask a local pool tech to take a look at my unit, should they be able to figure if we have the ability to rinse the valve prior to going back to filter mode?

  • vincelori Sep 18, 2010

    Please excuse my ignorance on this, but we are not the original owner of the house, and I'm not sure what they did. However, after taking a closer look at our sand filter, I noticed that the only part that looks like it is a Hayward Sand Filter is the tank the holds the sand. The motor and such are from KB Pool supplies, which is no longer in business. The actual motor is located off to the side, hence all the white pvc pipes that are coming out of the sand tank. I do see two valves that look similar to the image you sent me, however neither of them has any markings on them other than the word inlet. If I ask a local pool tech to take a look at my unit, should they be able to figure if we have the ability to rinse the valve prior to going back to filter mode?

  • vincelori Sep 18, 2010

    Please excuse my ignorance on this, but we are not the original owner of the house, and I'm not sure what they did. However, after taking a closer look at our sand filter, I noticed that the only part that looks like it is a Hayward Sand Filter is the tank the holds the sand. The motor and such are from KB Pool supplies, which is no longer in business. The actual motor is located off to the side, hence all the white pvc pipes that are coming out of the sand tank. I do see two valves that look similar to the image you sent me, however neither of them has any markings on them other than the word inlet. If I ask a local pool tech to take a look at my unit, should they be able to figure if we have the ability to rinse the valve prior to going back to filter mode?

  • vincelori Sep 18, 2010

    Please excuse my ignorance on this, but we are not the original owner of the house, and I'm not sure what they did. However, after taking a closer look at our sand filter, I noticed that the only part that looks like it is a Hayward Sand Filter is the tank the holds the sand. The motor and such are from KB Pool supplies, which is no longer in business. The actual motor is located off to the side, hence all the white pvc pipes that are coming out of the sand tank. I do see two valves that look similar to the image you sent me, however neither of them has any markings on them other than the word inlet. If I ask a local pool tech to take a look at my unit, should they be able to figure if we have the ability to rinse the valve prior to going back to filter mode?

  • vincelori Sep 18, 2010

    Please excuse my ignorance on this, but we are not the original owner of the house, and I'm not sure what they did. However, after taking a closer look at our sand filter, I noticed that the only part that looks like it is a Hayward Sand Filter is the tank the holds the sand. The motor and such are from KB Pool supplies, which is no longer in business. The actual motor is located off to the side, hence all the white pvc pipes that are coming out of the sand tank. I do see two valves that look similar to the image you sent me, however neither of them has any markings on them other than the word inlet. If I ask a local pool tech to take a look at my unit, should they be able to figure if we have the ability to rinse the valve prior to going back to filter mode?

  • vincelori Sep 18, 2010

    Please excuse my ignorance on this, but we are not the original owner of the house, and I'm not sure what they did. However, after taking a closer look at our sand filter, I noticed that the only part that looks like it is a Hayward Sand Filter is the tank the holds the sand. The motor and such are from KB Pool supplies, which is no longer in business. The actual motor is located off to the side, hence all the white pvc pipes that are coming out of the sand tank. I do see two valves that look similar to the image you sent me, however neither of them has any markings on them other than the word inlet. If I ask a local pool tech to take a look at my unit, should they be able to figure if we have the ability to rinse the valve prior to going back to filter mode?

  • vincelori Sep 18, 2010

    Okay, please pardon my ignorance, but this unit came with the house, so I don't know much about it. After taking a closer look, I see that the only part of the sand filter that is Hayward is the tub that holds the sand. The actual filter motor has a KB Pool label. This is why I don't see any valves like you are describing. The actual motor/filter sits next to the big tub. I do see two valves that look similar to the image you sent, but there is no writing on them. Do you think if I hire a pool tech to come take a look that he would be able to tell me if I have the ability to rinse after a backwash before turning the filter back on?

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Thank you for posting your question here on Fixya.com.


If it is a short burst of brown water it is because you are not rinsing the valve prior to going back to filter mode. After backwashing you should go to rinse. Power the pump for a couple seconds to remove dirt from the valve itself, then power off and switch to filter mode.

If it is an ongoing problem for more than a moment you will need to inspect the diffuser gasket for damage that could allow the dirt in the filter to return to the pool thru the return line.


If this answer does not fix your problem, please comment with additional details prior to rating the answer. Positive feedback is appreciated once your problem is solved!


John

Posted on Sep 17, 2010

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  • vincelori Sep 17, 2010

    I don't believe we have a rinse option on our pump. It is a S244S Hayward Pro Series. If we have one, I can't find it.

  • John Prohaska
    John Prohaska Sep 17, 2010

    It is on the valve one setting counter-clockwise from filter.

  • John Prohaska
    John Prohaska Sep 17, 2010

    Page 4 of this manual talks about your valve settings.



    Your valve layout:


  • vincelori Sep 17, 2010

    No, I don't have any such valve settings on my filter. Any other suggestions?

  • John Prohaska
    John Prohaska Sep 17, 2010

    Your filter should look like this...






    If you do not have a valve like the one in the circle, what do you have there that is allowing you to backwash the filter?

  • vincelori Sep 17, 2010

    It is just a white PVC round part that has a open and lock setting.

  • John Prohaska
    John Prohaska Sep 17, 2010

    Ahhh...someone has replaced your variport valve with what is called a push/pull valve. It is likely off an old Baker filter or you have a very old Hayward. In either case you only have filter and backwash mode. The problem is that no matter how long you backwash you end up getting a burst of the remaining dirty water back to the pool after you are done unless you rinse the valve/filter. Your setup will not allow that. You can try to backwash longer but it will only minimize the burst, it is unlikely to eliminate it. You can go on as normal or refit the filter with a valve like the one shown in the previous post and therefore rinse. Over the years most of those push/pull valves I have come across work well enough that the burst is minimal and the customers just live with them. If it that big of a concern you'll need to refit the valve...your call.

  • John Prohaska
    John Prohaska Sep 17, 2010

    Just to clarify then, your filter looks similar to this:


  • John Prohaska
    John Prohaska Sep 18, 2010

    It may be in your best interests if there is more than the filter issue you want some guidance on. If it is only the filter, can you take a digital photo and either post it here or email it to me using the contact feature found on our pool web site? If you can please visit www.arrowpools.net. Fixya's site limits file postings to 150K which is probably too small for a color photo.



    John

  • vincelori Sep 18, 2010

    Yes, that is what our filter looks like, except the top ring is white. Should I still have a rinse option?

  • John Prohaska
    John Prohaska Sep 18, 2010

    No, just backwash. You can replace the valve you have with one like that shown in the filter black and white diagram. I imagine it would run about $90 for the valve and if you hire a pool guy or plumbing to connect it that would be an additional $100 or so. Is the burst of dirty water worth $200? That is a question you would have to decide upon.

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