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I can't start the grill. The tank is full and the igniter works ok. there is no gas getting to the igniter.

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Posted on Jan 02, 2017

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SOURCE: Grill with a full tank of gas will not get hot

Low flame, low temperature, yellow flame: This has become the biggest problem with many grills these days and it's almost always because of the regulator (the funny UFO shaped thing on the gas hose). Regulators seem to be stickier these days and when they stick you don't get enough gas to generate a good grilling temperature. To get your regulator unstuck you need to release the pressure on it. Follow these steps exactly:

  1. Turn off the gas at the propane tank
  2. Disconnect the gas line from the tank
  3. Open the grill lid
  4. Turn all control valves to high
  5. Wait for about a minute
  6. Turn all control valves to off
  7. Reconnect the gas line to the tank
  8. SLOWLY turn on the gas at the tank
  9. Light the grill normally
  10. Your grill should now heat normally
To keep the regulator from sticking again make sure that you turn off the control valves first, then turn off the tank valve. Always open your tank valve slowly. If this doesn't work give it a second try. If you still have low flame then you probably have a faulty regulator that will need to be replaced.

Posted on May 25, 2009

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SOURCE: My grill won't light, and I don't hear gas running

I have had to replace the hose and regulator twice in the 10 years I have had my Weber grill. If you can't hear the gas flow, it is not getting through the regulator. New hose and regulator can't be purchased at Lowe's, etc for about $20.00. Make sure you take old one with so you get the same fittings on both sides of the hose.

Posted on Jul 06, 2009

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It sounds like you may be "vapor locking" the grill...after you are done cooking on the grill, how do you shut it off? Do you close the tank valve first then close the burner valves or do you turn off the burner valves then shut the gas off at the tank? If you turn the burners off before turning the gas off, you are creating a "vapor-lock" where air gets trapped in the line and you get the sputtering you are talking about.

Try this first, turn the gas on, then light the grill...once it is lit, turn off the gas and wait for the flame to fully extinguish then turn the burners off. Now try to light it again...if it is still sputtering, repeat the procedure above to purge the air out of the line.

If that procedure does not fix your issue after three tries, go get a new line and regulator and install then do that same procedure again. This should fix your issue once and for all.

If you experience any trouble with this, let me know here. Good Luck!

Posted on Oct 30, 2009

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Make sure you didn't turn the gas tank valve on too fast. Some gas hoses have a built-in excess flow valve that stops the flow of gas to a trickle if opened too fast. Close the tank valve, disconnect it and reconnect it. Turn the tank valve on very slowly and then try lighting it again. Let me know if it solves your problem.

Posted on May 20, 2010

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SOURCE: i have a charbroil commercial gas grill that won't

Hello, here is my check list for your most common gas grill lighting problems:

1) Check your tank. Is it empty or nearly empty? The tare weight (T.W.) of your cylinder is stamped on the collar. This is the weight of your empty cylinder, usually around 18 lbs. Weigh it on your bathroom scale2_bing.gif. Propane weighs 4.25 lbs/gal. If it weighs around 20 lbs or less - Refill it. If not, go to #2.

2) Make sure you didn't turn the gas tank valve on too fast. Some gas hoses have a built-in excess flow valve that stops the flow of gas to a trickle if opened too fast. Close the tank valve, disconnect it and reconnect it. Turn the tank valve back on very slowly and then try lighting it again. Make sure all your grill gas knobs are turned to off when you turn on the tank valve and that you only light 1 burner at a time. If it doesn't help, go to #3.

3) Is the igniter sparking? Some are battery2_bing.gif powered-check the battery or replace it. If you have a standard push button piezzo igniter or a rotary style2_bing.gif igniter, check for spark. Can you hear or see the spark? It's hard to see the spark in bright daylight. It's easier to view the spark at dusk or dawn. It should spark an "arc" at the burner. If not, adjust it if necessary. The igniter wire may have a short, causing the spark to arc somewhere else along the wire and not at the burner. Replace igniter wire. It's also possible the igniter tip where it sparks has a cracked or broken porcelain portion of the igniter, causing the spark to not arc at the tip where it's supposed to. Replace the igniter piece. If not, go to #4.

4) You may have a rusted, clogged or damaged burner or venturi tube. With a flashlight, check for spider webs, wasp nests or dirt (mud) dauber nests in the opening of the venturi tube where it connects at each gas valve orifice. Clean it out manually or blow it out with air compressor. Make sure the air adjustment opening (on the end of the burner's venturi tube) has not been changed. If it's closed too much, it will be difficult to light and cause lazy yellow flames. If it's not clogged, the burner may just be old and rusted and the burner holes are not allowing very much gas through anymore. It's also possible the burner has rusted so bad, the burner holes have been enlarged, it is falling apart or has cracks along the burner seams. If so, replace the burner(s) immediately. It is unsafe to use. Your local propane co can usually order the parts you need and some will even do the work, if you are uncomfortable doing it yourself. Bring with you the Make, Model and Serial number of the grill, so they can order the correct parts for your specific grill. Also specify whether it's natural gas2_bing.gif or propane.

5) If none of these resolve the issues you are having, it is also possible you have a faulty or defective regulator, which may mean replacement. If the pressure still seems too low and none of the above has helped, and you have a silver/gray regulator; many have an adjustment screw on the top center of the diaphragm. Remove the outer cap and turn the inside screw clockwise in 1/4 turns to increase the pressure until the desired flame size is accomplished. Flames should be as blue as possible, but will burn orange if there is food or drippings on it. Yellow flames are not good, and will soot up everything and not cook as hot as blue flames do. Yellow flames could mean you do not have the right air shutter adjustment, clogged burners, or possibly defective burners, as mentioned above in #4.

6) Also make sure you have the hose connection tightened snugly to the propane tank valve to ensure the inner valve seat is fully depressed allowing gas to exit fully without any restriction. The black plastic female fitting should be hand tightened only. Older versions that use a left-hand male brass POL valve, requires a 7/8 open end wrench or adjustable wrench to tighten.

Hope this helps! Good luck in your trouble shooting! Douglas

Posted on Jun 08, 2010

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