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Ram and pci-e slots

Hi i was just wondering if i can upgrade my ram and if i can use a pci -express adapter so i can use it for better graphics on my laptop wich has a mobility ati radeon 9600 graphics card built in.any help or info would be graet because i tried checking the bottom of laptop for the ram slots but coulnt find it.

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My son saved up and bought a Gateway SX2855-UB12P. We have upgraded to 8MB of RAM and now are looking to upgrade the video card which currently is a PCI Express x16 Graphics. Given his machine is a en


Hope you mean upgraded ram to 8 GB 8 mb is not much ram to run a computer.

To upgrade your computer's graphics card, unfortunately you can't just simply purchase a card and install it to your computer. Before purchasing a card, you must first confirm what is compatible with your motherboard. Graphics cards use either AGP or PCI Express technology. Many older computers use AGP. AGP cards can vary in version and bandwidth, whereas PCI Express cards can vary based on their lane . Moreover, the card itself is not your only consideration when looking to upgrade your computer's graphics. You must also consider the strength of your computer's power supply as well, since most newer cards use a lot of power. Download, install and run SiSoftware's Sandra (see link Below) to find out information on your motherboard. http://download.cnet.com/SiSoftware-Sandra/3000-2086_4-10556571.html Click the "Mainboard Information" icon, then write down the information next to "Manufacturer" and "Model." Navigate to the motherboard manufacturer's website. If you are not sure of the website's URL, enter the manufacturer's name into a search engine to find the company's website. Go to the support page and enter your motherboard's model. Download the motherboard's manual or review the specifications. Search the manual or specifications for "Expansion slot," "AGP" or "PCI Express." If the expansion slot uses AGP, note the version (AGP comes in 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0), as well as the bandwidth (1x, 2x, 4x or 8x). If the expansion slot uses PCI Express, note the amount of lanes (x1, x4, x8 or x16). Search the manual or specifications for "Power," "PSU" or "Power Supply." Write down the power supply's voltage (3.3V, 5V or 12V) and amp rating (designated by "A"). Not all manufacturers list the amp rating in their documentation, so you may need to contact the manufacturer for more assistance. Compare the graphics card you want to buy to the motherboard's expansion slot. AGP cards won't work in motherboards using PCI Express, and vice versa. Similarly, AGP 3.0 cards won't work in motherboards using AGP 1.0. A PCI Express x8 card will not fit in a PCI Express x1 slot. Check the voltage and amperage of the video card to the voltage and amperage on your motherboard. A video card that requires a higher amp rating requires a powerful PSU. Hope this helps.

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Dec 24, 2012 | Computers & Internet

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Use of PCI-e x16 slot for non-video card


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WHY would you want to do that?

There is a PCI-Express x1 slot on the motherboard.
Black in color, and in-between the black PCI-Express x16 slot, and a white PCI slot.

Use the PCI-E x1 RAID adapter card in the PCI-E x1 slot, and a PCI-Express graphics card in the PCI-E x16 slot. Sheesh!

A PCI-Express slot is not an evolved PCI slot.
Completely different technologies.

PCI uses a shared Parallel bus architecture, while PCI-Express is based on Serial point-to-point.

So your idea of how to 'fix' your problem, is to use a PCI-E x1 card in a PCI-Express x16 slot, and a PCI graphics card in a PCI slot?

Completely backwards.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Motherboard_diagram.svg

PCI-Express x16 slot uses the same lanes from the Northbridge, as the OnBoard video?

UTTER NONSENSE!

The Northbridge chip handles the Faster capabilities of a computer.
Handles the Processor, Ram Memory, and HIGH-SPEED Graphics.

HIGH-SPEED graphics is the Accelerated Graphics Port (AGP) technology, and the PCI-Express technology.

The Southbridge chip handles the Slower capabilities of a computer.

The PCI bus is one of those slower capabilities handled by the Southbridge chip.

The PCI bus is also a shared bus. This slows data down.
The AGP bus, and PCI-Express bus are Not shared. They also have a direct link to the Northbridge chip.

The PCI Bus has to go through the Southbridge chip, which has to go through the Internal Bus, THEN to the Northbridge chip.

OnBoard video, or Integrated Graphics, uses the PCI bus.
When you inserted the PCI-E x1 RAID card in the PCI-Express x16 slot, and a PCI graphics card in the PCI slot, BIOS just assigned another IRQ for the PCI-Express x16 slot.
(Interrupt Request)

No fancy technology going on there.

Backwards technology going on with a PCI-Express x1 card in a PCI-Express x16 slot, though.

I do not concur, and do not think that is a good solution, Kevin.

Regards,
joecoolvette

Aug 24, 2012 | Gateway Foxconn C51GU01 Motherboard

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WHAT GRAPHICS CARDS ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE AVERATEC ALL-IN-ONEDESTOP PC'S?


1) It has an Intel G35 Express motherboard chipset,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_intel_chipsets#Core_2_chipsets

Under the - Chipset heading on the left, scroll down to - G35

Note that under the - Graphics heading, all the way to the right, that the Intel G35 Express chipset;

1) Will support a PCI-Express x16 expansion slot. This means a PCI-Express graphics card can be used, IF, there is a PCI-Express x16 slot on the motherboard.

[ PCI-Express is a technology. The current PCI-Express technology is PCI-Express 2.0

There is a PCI-Express x1 expansion slot, and a PCI-Express x16 expansion slot. (Not relating to Your computer at the moment)

The PCI-Express x1 slot is Not used for a graphics card.
The PCI-Express x16 slot IS,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express ]

2) Has Intel GMA X3500 Integrated Graphics.
Meaning if there is NO graphics card installed right now, the computer is using Integrated Graphics, (Intel GMA X3500,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_GMA#GMA_X3500

Now,...you are essentially working on a laptop with a touchscreen.
Once you remove the 10 screws from the Back Cover, and remove the cover, you are looking at the exposed circuitry of the computer.

You NEED to follow Anti-Static Precautions. This cannot be performed as on a regular desktop computer. Touching the metal frame (Of the unplugged from power computer) will do you No good.

You need to use an ESD wrist strap, and connect it's alligator clip to a good ground source. [ Electro Static Discharge]

Your body carries Static electricity. Static WILL fry out (Short Circuit) the delicate hardware components inside a computer.

With the Back Cover off the manufacturer knows all of the hardware components are exposed. This means the person working on the computer should be aware of Static issues, and use proper tools.

The average consumer is not aware of this. This is why only a ram memory upgrade is recommended by the manufacturer. (Before they went out of business)

This is why there are no service manuals released, also.
Only for the qualified authorized service techs.

So,...let's look together. See if there is a PCI-Express x16 slot, for one.
It can be any color. Will be longer than any other expansion slot on the motherboard. The PCI slots (Usually white) are not as long.
(164 contact pins. 82 on each side)

These examples of a PCI slot, and versions of a PCI-Express slot, are all the same color. (Yellow) Not usual for a desktop computer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PCIExpress.jpg

The top example is an example of a PCI-Express x4 slot.
Hardly EVER used, I didn't mention it.
Has 64 contact pins. 32 on each side.

The next slot down is an example of a PCI-Express x16 slot.
164 contact pins. 82 on each side.

Next down is an example of a PCI-Express x1 slot.
36 contact pins. 18 on each side.

Next down is another example of a PCI-Express x16 slot.

Last example is an example of a PCI slot. TOTALLY different technology than PCI-Express.
124 contact pins. 62 on each side. (Unless PCI that is 64-bit)

IF, there is a PCI-Express x16 slot on the motherboard, you can use PCI-Express 1.1 or 2.0 graphics cards.

You need to be concerned with;

A) How much height is available for the graphics card, and how much length? Check the measurements inside the computer. Match to dimensions of the graphics cards you are looking at.

B) How much POWER does the graphics card require? It's in the Minimum Requirements stated for the graphics card.
How much power is available to the all-in-one computer?

This could be an instant stopping block.

AMD ATI Radeon graphics cards generally use less power, than a comparable Nvidia graphics card.

C) Worried about your computer per se uses DDR Sdram ram memory, and the graphics card uses GDDR3 ram memory? (Just an example. Not directly related to Your computer)

Don't be. Doesn't matter what graphics memory a graphics card uses.

The graphics card does Not rely on the system resources (Processor and Ram Memory) of the computer.
A graphics card has it's own Processor, (GPU. Graphics Processing Unit), and graphics ram memory.

For additional questions, or to have me explain in further detail, or to clarify, post in a Comment.

Regards,
joecoolvette

Feb 26, 2012 | HP Presario Computers & Internet

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Hi, Is Asus ATI Radeon HD6450 Silence 1GB DDR3 VGA/DVI/HDMI Low Profile PCI-Express Video Card capable for my Compaq HP Presario SR2020NX? -thanks a lot.


You mean will the Asus ATI Radeon HD6450 with 1GB of graphics memory, work in a Compaq Presario SR2020NX Desktop PC?

Yes.

The Compaq Presario SR2020NX Desktop PC has a PCI-Express x16 expansion slot.

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00757470&tmp_task=prodinfoCategory&cc=us&dlc=en&lang=en&lc=en&product=3245048

{Motherboard illustration and photo are towards the bottom of the page}

Look at the specifications.
Scroll down to the heading - Expansion slots.

Three PCI. (PCI expansion slots)

One PCI Express x16 graphics.

NOTE*
Looking at the motherboard illustration, it is Wrong.
Shows - PCIEX1 (PCI E X1)
According to the specifications it is a PCIEX16 expansion slot. (PCI-E x16)

A PCI-Express x1 slot has 36 contact pins. 18 on each side.

In comparison a PCI slot {White} has 124 contact pins. 62 on each side.

Looking at the photo of the supposed PCI-E x1 slot they show, the black PCI-Ex1 slot is longer than the white PCI slots.

It is a PCI-Express x16 slot with 164 pins. 82 on each side.



The Asus ATI Radeon HD6450 uses a PCI-Express x16 expansion slot.

So you know the graphics card will fit. Low-profile to boot.

Power requirement:
The Compaq Presario SR2020NX desktop computer comes with a 300 Watt power supply.
(Although in actuality it's more like 70 percent of the maximum rated wattage. 210 Watts)

Enough power for the computer, and the graphics card.
ATI graphics cards do not use as much power as a comparable Nvidia graphics card.

Concerned that the Asus graphics card uses DDR3 graphics ram memory, and the Presario SR2020NX uses DDR2 Sdram ram memory?

Don't be. The graphics cards graphics memory runs independent of the computer's ram memory.

Information on PCI-Express,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI-Express

For additional questions please post in a Comment.
(Top right of your page, blue Comment)

Regards,
joecoolvette

Sep 15, 2011 | HP Compaq Presario SR2020NX PC Desktop

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I want to install a graphic card that is better than the onboard one


Hello there, I am the Expert that will be helping you today, my name in damnor01.
Welcome to Fixya.

You need to start by identifying the slots that are present on your computer mainboard.

PCI is the white slot

PCI-Express is the faster than PCI. PCI-Express usually has a clip on the rear of the slot.

Use PCI-Express if you can.

Basically find the model number of your computer mainbard and then find the specs of your mainboard using google. Model number is printed on the board, between the PCI, AGP or PCI-Express slots or between the RAM slots.

Then purchase a card that is supported by your mainboard and install.

damnor01

Feb 06, 2011 | Acer Computers & Internet

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Upgrading graphics card


This is eMachines Support, and the specifications page for the eMachines C6535 desktop computer,

http://www.emachines.com/support/product_support.html?cat=Desktops&subcat=C%20Series&model=C6535

Scroll down the list until you come to the Video heading.

You'll see - PCI Express (PCI-E x16) slot available

This means you have a PCI Express x16 graphics slot on the motherboard, and it is open, and available.

You can use a PCI Express graphics card.

Two things I would like to note.

1) You need to check the System Requirements of the PCI Express graphics card you're going to buy, and see if your System Resources are able to support it.

The main thing you need to look for here, is what power is required for the graphics card.

Does your Power Supply have the necessary Wattage?

Not only does your Power Supply have to be able to deliver the necessary power for the computer system resources (Processor, Ram Memory, etc), it also has to be able to deliver enough power for THAT graphics card.

Since eMachines Support doesn't list the power of the Power Supply, I searched online for a Power Supply replacement for the C6535.

Seems the C6535 comes with a 300 Watt power supply.
Problem is, back in the day the C6535 was made, power supply manufacturers were 'Fudging' the true maximum Wattage, that their power supply's were truly able to deliver.

A more realistic figure, is 70 percent of the maximum rated Wattage stated.
This would be 210 Watts.

Therefore, you're going to need a better power supply, to support any of the really decent PCI Express graphics cards out there.

2) PCI Express came out in 2004.
PCI Express is a technology.

The PCI Express technology has gone through three major changes, or upgrades, since it came out.

A) PCI Express 1.0 version
B) PCI Express 1.1 version
C) PCI Express 2.0 version

PCI Express graphics cards now, are made in the PCI Express 2.0 version.

You can use a PCI Express 2.0 graphics card in a computer with PCI Express 1.1 technology.

PCI Express 2.0 is Backward Compatible with the PCI Express 1.1 technology.

Your computer uses the PCI Express 1.1 technology.

If you use a PCI Express 2.0 graphics card in a computer with PCI Express 1.1 technology, you won't get the full capability of the PCI Express 2.0 graphics card.

Will you notice?
NO
We haven't begun to fully use all the bandwidth of the PCI Express 1.1 technology yet, much less PCI Express 2.0

(PCI Express 3.0 technology is just around the corner, and getting ready to be used on newer graphic cards. Marketing strategy)

Have any further questions concerning this, please post in a Comment.
JCV

Information on PCI Express,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express

May 18, 2010 | E-Machines eMachines Desktop PC

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"Call of Duty" runs in slow motion on my PC.


Hi thomas,

Upgrading video cards will definitely increase in performance. You asked whether you should upgrade your entire PC or just the card and that really depends on the hardware you are running. If all of your hardware just barely meets the requirements than upgrading the videocard WILL give you a noticeable improvement but obviously it will not be as good as getting a better CPU and more RAM as well as a new card.

A good measure of a cards performance is based on the series of cards it is from. Your Geforce is from the 6000 series of Nvidia cards, they have 7000, 8000, and even 9000 series cards atm.

I would recommend something like an XFX Geforce 9800 GTX+ series card with 512MB of onboard memory, or any other competing card in the 200$ price range. This will definitely give you an increase in performance, and is a very popular card.

Hope this helps and please take a second to rate!

Mar 20, 2009 | HP Pavilion a1610n PC Desktop

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I want to play an high graphic games on my computer Which is Intel D865GVHZ and do not have avg slot on it can I play the high graphics on PCI graphic card


In today's generation the PCI Express Slot are used for graphic card and it is available in many motherboards.

It is faster than the AGP Slot and PCI Slot.

In your machine, if you want to play higher games than you use that AGP slot because it is faster than the normal PCI Slot.
To play higher games you need an at least 2 GB of RAM.

My suggestion is that you just upgrade your system with latest motherboard and PCI Express Graphic Card that will play your all games very smoothly.

Mar 09, 2009 | Intel D865GVHZ Motherboard

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Graphics Card Compatibility with Asus M2A-MX motherboard


Hi Anli!

Well, any GPU with pci expess will be compatible thit that mobo of your.

Its not easy to recomend any specific, it all depends of what you needs are.

Just make sure that the card you upgrade with is for an pci express slot.
A verry good GPU coast around 150-200 euros, a top GPU card cost 400-600 euros
There are ATI cards and there are Nvidia cards, both will suit with your MoBo as long as they are for pci express.

Good luck with your new card M8!

please take a moment and rate my answer

Nic

Feb 06, 2009 | ASUS Computers & Internet

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Reply to my motherboard


It looks like your trying to install a PCI Graphics Adapter. If that is the case, I would try the PCI Graphics Adapter any Slot other than Slot 1 or Slot 2. That is unless, your PCI Graphics Adapter Card is a PCI Express, then that must be installed in Slot 1, if the Board supports it. If the PCI Graphics Adapter is a PCI-I Card then it must be installed in Slot 2.

Check AMD's site, they have or already implemented standards on their support chips. The standard, as I understand it, is Slot 1 - PCI Express, Slot 2 - PCI-I, if you're using those Slot for PCI Graphics Adapter.

It should be possible to use those Slots (1 & 2) for any PCI Cards that is not a PCI Graphics Adapter, be careful, I have not checked that out. Those do not handshake as Video Adapter, so the PCI card should not be thrown or overdriven, the PCI-Express and PCI-I, to my knowledge is only for Grahpics Adapters, should that be different, then Slot 1 for only PCI Express Cards and Slot 2 for only PCI-I Cards.

Me, for now, Slot 1 for Express, Slot 2 for PCI-I, and the rest of the Slot for all else. If your PCI Graphics Adapter is not an Express or PCI-I, install in any Slot other than Slot 1 or Slot 2.

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