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If the breaker box is fairly new, most manufacturers have "slim breakers" that allow for a double breaker to be put in the same space as a full size breaker. There should be no change in performance or safety. Can usually find them at Home Depot or Lowes, etc.

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1) Add a subpanel using extra breaker space:
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2) Choose correct wire and breaker.
Increase to next larger size for distances over 100 feet from breaker.
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3) Calculate total load on main breaker to make sure service panel is large enough for amp draw:
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You can use a double switch, or make a '2-gang box' by adding another switch.
Copy following links for wiring multiple switches inside same box, and wiring double switch.
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You can add the breaker.
The key is total electric use.
As long as total consumption does not exceed amps shown on main breaker, then the new 40A breaker installation is ok.
If total consumption exceeds main breaker, then the main breaker will start to get hot and then trip.
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1) If this is for main breaker, then replacement is only option.

2) If this is for 120V or 240V breaker, then move breakers around so you can make space by adding tandem breaker(s) if available.
http://waterheatertimer.org/images/Circuit-Breakers-ap235-500.jpg

3) You can also make space by doubling lesser used circuit onto one breaker, making sure that 14 gauge wire goes on size 15A breaker and 12 gauge wire goes on 20A breaker.
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4) You can work around by adding adding subpanel
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There seem to be several questions mingled in with those 2 questions.

1) Amps can go either way

2) Breakers trip when heat exceeds certain level. Heat is caused by amps.

3) You want to add a subpanel in garage.
I do not know the code in your area for installing a subpanel.
Your plan will work by connecting 6 gauge wire to main breaker, and new 60 amp breaker will protect wires between main box and subpanel.
Remember, wires going into main breaker cannot be turned off without pulling meter.
Some areas require license to pull meter.
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4) To work around license and meter-pull, simply replace a 240V breaker in main panel with your new 60 amp breaker.
Then move breakers around to match new set-up.
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5) 6 gauge wire is correct for 60 amp breaker.

6) I'm not sure what you mean by the box rails?

7) Do you need more amperage on main service?
This means adding a larger service panel with 150 Watt or 200 Watt main breaker.
Some areas require service upgrade when remodeling or adding circuits.

8) How to figure total amp draw at your house.
Add up total watts being used.
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40 watt light bulb divided by 120Volts = .33 amps
Double oven has label located inside door that shows upper and lower wattage.
Dishwasher, dryer, big screen TV, satellite receiver all have labels that show wattage.
Water heater has label that shows wattage of each element.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Figure-Volts-Amps-Watts-for-water-heater.html
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1) If busbar looks good it probably is good.
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2) Problem with bad busbar, we sometimes add subpanel next to main box.
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