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Posted on Sep 10, 2010

3 SPEED MOTOR WOULD JUST HUM. fOUND THE RETURN OR NEUTRAL WAS OPEN AND THERE WAS A SMALL BLACK DEVICE A FUSE OR WHAT EVER AND THIS SEEMS TO BE OPEN. tHIS IS WHERE THEY JOIN THE NUTRALS FOR THE 3 WINDINGS. wHAT IS IT AND WHERE DO i BUY IT?

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The "black box" is a starter capacitor. It will appear open on your tester, that's the way it's designed. It's probably nothing in the switchbox. I've the same problem and it's pretty clear you (and I) need a new motor.
You are looking for a 120 volt, 3 speed motor. Can't tell you the amperage.

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