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Tub will not spin unless I manually turn it, then it will take hold and finish spinning. Someone told me it was the clutch. The washer is 8 years old. Is it worth fixing?

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Hello,

If you are able to hear the motor running "normally" while the tub is not spinning, then it likely is the clutch. Leaving it running like this (motor on but tub still) will eventually produce an acrid smell which will confirm the clutch.

If the motor just seems to hum and not spin, then the start capacitor is likely faulted.

Both are reasonably cheap as far as parts go, but clutch replacement can be a chore. Capacitor replacement is very easy. If you are mechanically apt, you can replace the clutch itself.

This washer is definitely worth trying to save (my opinion), but ultimately it is up to how much time you have, how much money you want to put into it vs the cost of a replacement.

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First, see the Sears Parts site for washer model 110.24852300 which I assume is your washer.

http://www.searspartsdirect.com/partsdirect/getModel!retrieve.pd?pop=true&modelNumber=110.24852300

Whirlpool / Kenmore top load direct drive washers use a clutch to start the Spin Tube which turns the tub.

They also use a Neutral Drain Assembly in the transmission which allows the washer to drain most of the water out before starting the spin.

Two possibilities:

First, See the following for how to remove the cabinet, pump, motor and transmission in order to check the clutch.

http://www.searspartsdirect.com/partsdirect/getModel!retrieve.pd?pop=true&modelNumber=110.24852300

You don't have to remove the drum.

Check the clutch for wear as well as the springs. If the clutch is worn or the springs are broken, Sears has a "rebuild kit" for the clutch.

If the clutch is OK, the problem points to the Neutral Drain Assembly in the transmission.

This is a Whirlpool PDF on how these washers operate. It has a detailed section on how the transmission works.

https://secured.whirlpool.com/Service/SrvTechAdm.nsf/2cd44500d572193285256a45004fd9d6/f7e2147fa98b28cf85257122007475cb/$FILE/L-55.pdf

It also has a troubleshooting guide.

Those cams/gears etc. in that assembly keep the washer from spinning until all of the water is pumped out and then go into spin mode.

Manually turning the drum apparentlthrows the cams into the right gears so that the washer will spin.

Ours had the same problem, no spin unless the lid was raised and lowered or we shut off and re-started the cycle.

After looking at the transmission parts list (available on a number of sites) and on the Whirlpool site (Whirlpool makes Kenmore) we noticed that the one of the cams in the neutral assembly which is supposed to have a small spring, didn't on ours when we tore the transmission apart again

http://shared.whirlpoolcorp.com/assets/pdfs/literature/Repair%20Part%20List%20-%20W10114743.pdf

Found the part number for a kit (Whirlpool part number 388253 Neutral Assembly) for $15.00 and replaced the cams and gears.

In order to get the transmission out, you have to remove the cabinet, the fabric dispenser and both agitators. The top agitator uses a plastic 1/2" drive bolt (a 1/2" socket extension works well).

You don't have to remove the drum.


http://www.american-appliance.com/catalog/newsdesk_info.php?newsPath=16&newsdesk_id=137

Lay the machine down (after disconnecting power and hoses, remove the pump (two clips), the motor (two screws hold two clips on the motor), lift and set the motor aside.

Remove two 1/2 inch bolts for the motor mounting plate and three 1/2 inch bolts for the transmission.

Pull the transmission, remove the clutch (there is a spring clip that holds the clutch on the main agitator shaft), remove the 8 screws carefully the transmission holds 14 - 15Oz of oil, remove the clip holding the main spin gear on and check the plastic cams.

If the cam that should have a spring doesn't, or the others look damaged, or the main spin gear is damaged the washer won't go into spin mode.

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http://www.searspartsdirect.com/partsdirect/getModel!retrieve.pd?modelNumber=110.23832100

See the Whirlpool service manual for these washers.

https://secured.whirlpool.com/Service/SrvTechAdm.nsf/2cd44500d572193285256a45004fd9d6/f7e2147fa98b28cf85257122007475cb/$FILE/L-55.pdf

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See the following:

http://www.american-appliance.com/catalog/newsdesk_info.php?newsPath=16&newsdesk_id=137

With the transmission out you have access to the motor coupler and clutch. Check both before proceeding.

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After looking at the transmission parts list (available on a number of sites) and on the Whirlpool site (Whirlpool makes Kenmore) we noticed that the one of the cams in the neutral assembly which is supposed to have a small spring, didn't on ours when we tore the transmission apart again

http://shared.whirlpoolcorp.com/assets/pdfs/literature/Repair%20Part%20List%20-%20W10114743.pdf

Found the part number for a kit (Whirlpool part number 388253 Neutral Assembly) for $15.00 and replaced the cams and gears.

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http://www.american-appliance.com/catalog/newsdesk_info.php?newsPath=16&newsdesk_id=137

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