CC will not admit axel problem

What on earth is a trailer axel?

Do you mean the rear suspesion on the car?

he's full of crap. The rear suspension on those cars is one of the most
reliable ever put on the market.

What failed?

I'm absolutely certain that you and your mechanic have no idea what is wrong
(if anything) with your car.

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It is a pinging, metal on metal sound. Absoloutly awful. I look real cool
pulling into a parking lot with a shiny new car that sounds like it is falling
apart at the seems.

I hope the part comes in soon. It has been about ten days since the part was
ordered.

The welds that attach the trailing arms to the rear axle
often break on FWD Mopars. It's a common problem, kinda like blown
head gaskets on earlier turbo cars. The breakage results in a
clunking or groaning noise from the rear suspension. The original
author of this thread didn't get his terminology right, but it is
easy to deduce what he's talking about, if you've ever seen the
problem.

Now, what the hell is a Wagonmaster. Is that like a Buick
Roadmaster?

Often? Often? In all the years I've owned these things, and all of them
I've owned or worked on (i've had 6), and I've worked for a used car
dealership who sold them by the ton, I have NEVER heard of this happening.
Now, if you want to say that a specific year, model, or run of these things
had defective welds, feel free, but to say this is a common complaint everyone
knows about just ain't so.

No, I have not. Nor has my dealer friend who's sold hundreds and hundreds
of these cars, both new and used.

Are you unfamiliar with the terminology from the wagon trains that made thier
way to the west back in the 1800's?

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ODI ID Number: 336482
Make: PLYMOUTH
Model: RELIANT
Year: 1987
Date of Failure: 02 July 1989
Accident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Number of Deaths: 0
Component: POWER TRAIN:AXLE ASSEMBLY
Summary:
BROKEN ROD IN REAR AXLE OF CAR, CAUSED JANGLING NOISE FROM REAR,
REAR
AXLE REPLACED. BC

ODI ID Number: 336482
Make: PLYMOUTH
Model: RELIANT
Year: 1987
Date of Failure: 02 July 1989
Accident: No
Fire: No
Number of Injuries: 0
Number of Deaths: 0
Component: POWER TRAIN:AXLE ASSEMBLY
Summary:
BROKEN ROD IN REAR AXLE OF CAR, CAUSED JANGLING NOISE FROM REAR,
REAR
AXLE REPLACED. BC

The above info comes from the NHTSA database Sorry, I don't
have time to compile a statistical database of all makes and models
of K-car variants for you. If 2 family members in two different
parts of the country with 2 different model year K-car variants
have the same problem, then it's safe to assume that it's a problem
across the entire spectrum of cars that use the trailing arm rear
axle. Apparently, NHTSA is aware of it also. My brother was told by
a dealership mechanic that he could have the rear axle on his '90
Reliant replaced, but the mechanic stated that it would just break
again. Kinda like the TSB's for head gaskets, speed sensors, et al.
It's just that Chrysler hasn't issued a TSB for this problem...

I guess that's all we need to know. We'll just ask you and your
car dealer buddy if any problem that we see is normal. If you don't
know about it, then it must not be a problem. (Ain't never seed
this kinda thang before. Watcha been doin' wit dis car? Drivin'
it?)

So do you go on cattle drives for vacation? Or did you just
arrive in this century in a time machine?

Ummm Just for interest's sake, did you find any other car make that had a
suspension failure of any kind?

Naw, didn't figger you looked. I'd be quite willing to bet you will find
just about every vehicle produced listed with some sort of radical failure.

But, I've put those cars to the test (do you suppose jumping them, 4 wheels
airborne is a good enough test? I did it regularly in my Reliant...no
breaky...not even when a 3/4 ton 4X4 hit it did it break. In fact, the rear
suspension not only didn't break, but didn't even misalign in 140,000 miles.

My car had high-performance struts, shocks, and springs, and could be jumped
off of humps in the road at 50 to 80 MPH, and never bottom out. Scared the
pee out of folks who had never seen a K-car fly.

So, if you are going to tell me that a fraction of a percent of welds may be
defective, I will agree. This is true in ALL PRODUCTION, be it cars or
sprinker pipes. Don't just go spouting off about they are ALL bad. Tain't
true.

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CC KNOWS GOD DAMN WELL THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THE TRAILER AXLES ON 94
SHADOWS.

I CALLED ANOTHER DEALER WHO TOLD ME THE OLD PART NUMBER HAS BEEN SUPERCEDED BY
A NEW PART NUMBER. THE OLD PART WAS DEFECTIVE !!!!!

NOW THE NEW PART IS ON BACKORDER !!!!!

So if two cars have the same problem it's a common defect?

That means rusting hoods must be extremely common on 1970s GMs!