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This is regarding my a\c condensate line in the attic. I had a clogged line and the p-trap wasn't built correctly, so I rebuilt the condensate line and was going to attach it at the primary drain on the unit. So, after I cut the line, I went to unscrew the pvc adapter from the male metal adapter attached to the unit. It wouldn't budge. It is either extremely old, or somehow cemented together (maybe they used pvc cement instead of tape - don't know). Anyway, I tried sawing through the pvc, twisting it with plyers, this, that, and even more. It is at the stage where I can see the metal through the pvc at one place, but the metal appears to be fused to the pvc, so there is going to be no twisting it off. Does anyone have any ideas on how to dissolve the pvc away from the metal threaded adapter? It looks to me like I'm going to have to cut it off, but that is going to leave just a knub to connect to, and that assumes I can even get a hacksaw behind the pvc to cut it. Any ideas would be helpful?

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Hi,
A little heat very carefully directed from a torch will soften the plastic and also will break the platic loose from the metal....then carefully with an awl pick the plastic out of the threads of the metal....this is tedious work and impatience will come back to bite you, so make sure to take your time and so not overheat or the metal will melt out of the plastic tray....but I have already repaired a mess by siliconing a new adapter into the tray with no threads....:-) when fixing up somebody else's mess....

So a little heat and a whole lot of pickin will git it for you....sounds like a bluegrass concert... :-)

heatman101

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