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It looks like a Delta Monitor valve. Is it a Delta part or generic? Generic cartridges are junk and could be the problem, or maybe solder or trash or a valve seat is stuck in the valve body. There is also a possibility it is upside-down. It does take some force to push the cartridge in, line up the grooves and push

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I have moen #3330 shower unit.All is installed but cannot get water to flow. What do I need to do???


First I would check that there is no debris stuck in the valve. In most cases if this is a pressure balanced valve if either the cold or hot water side does not have pressure the valve will not function. When installing the valve was it soldered in? If so was the valve cartridge removed when soldering? Was the valve body flushed after installation before the valve body installed if removed during installation? That model has plastic valve cartridges which are very sensitive to heat and must be removed before soldering.Also the valve body has intergal shut offs make sure that they are turned to the on position for both hot and cold. As I said above being that this is a pressure balanced valve water pressure must be available from both hot and cold. If either hot or cold has less pressure then the other the valve will balance the pressure to be equal, this is to prevent scalding.

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Moen Positemp Shower Valve - Little or no Flow after several years


Moen shower valve bodies can clog internally, and there is a simple fix! 99 times out of 100 you will not need to replace the entire valve.
First remove the shower head and test for flow with the head removed..
Next replace the internal valve cartridge - available for free from Moen.
Next test for flow through the valve body AND through the shower head pipe elbow or arm and the vertical riser piping should be performed with the shower head removed, as those are often clogged.
You can also check for flow through the shower arm and vertical riser above the valve. To do this, twist the elbow so that it points upward. Using a funnel, see if you can pour a glass of water into that elbow and see if it flows nicely out of the front of the valve body (where the cartridge is removed).
On the Moen Positemp Shower Valves you must first remove the cartridge. If replacing the cartridge does not improve the flow, you should verify that you are getting plenty of flow to the valve body. Do this by leaving the cartridge out, stand back, and have someone slowly open the water main until you can verify that there is plenty of flow to the valve body. (Using cell phones makes communication easy) (You can use a towel or rag a few inches from the opening at the valve, as a water deflector to help you stay dry
If there is plenty of flow to the valve and if the cartridge is new, the only thing left is internal clogging of the valve body itself. This can occur over time with sediment accumulating in the tiny orifice connecting the inner diameter of the valve body to the valve outlet to the shower head.
Using a light you can examine the inner surfaces of the valve body while the cartridge is removed. Once you see or feel the roughly 3/16" HOLE in the internal diameter of the brass valve body this opening, and the passage from it is the likely suspect. This 3/16" opening connects internally to the valve outlet to the shower head itself .
The best cleaning tool I have found for the job is a 4" or longer piece of a plastic tie wrap smaller than 3"16 in width. Bend a radius in the end of the tie wrap and insert it into the small hole of orifice in the inside of the valve body. You should be able to slide it inward about 1 1/2" or more. The direction you want the tie wrap to travel is toward the rear or back of the valve body. Work it in and out 3-4 times and your obstruction should be cleared.
Reinstall your cartridge, and the clip, and turn on your water main. You should have much improved flow. After rinsing the shower head line for a minute, you can then reinstall the shower head.Bingo, hopefully you just saved yourself a $500 plumber's bill.( If you can't insert the tie wrap and get about 1 1/2" of insertion then you may have a blockage which may not be removable) (Tie wraps have small ribs or notches in them. When you bend the tie wrap to cause it to enter the 3/16" opening and get the desired 1 1/2"insertion - sometimes the tie wrap will be difficult to remove. This can be due to the ribs of the tie wrap catching on the 3/16" opening. You can slide you index finger inside the valve body and while pushing in on the tie wrap where it enters the 3/16" orifice - and pulling out on the tie wrap at the same time - it should come on out)To all you fine people who replaced the entire valves - sorry about that as it really was not necessary! Good luck to all the rest!
If your Moen Positemp pressure balanced single lever shower valve has Stopped Flowing Almost Completely, even after the cartridge and the shower head were replaced, and if the trick above does not improve the flow, there is a next step you can take if your are a fairly well skilled handy person.
The problem here is likely a very badly clogged valve body that is not serviceable - or at least that's what Moen thinks. So if you can't clear the output with the flexible piece of tie wrap material as described in the prior post, here goes...
.Before you go further, be certain that this is your problem if you haven't done this already: Remove the shower head. Twist the elbow so that it points upward. Using a funnel, see if you can pour a glass full of water into that elbow and see if it flows nicely out of the front of the valve body (where the cartridge is removed). If the water backs up in the elbow, you have a clogged valve body, for sure. Since your water may be off at this point, you can dip a cup into the back of any toilet tank as a water source)
At this point you have identified that you have 2 choices - 1) replace the complete shower valve or 2) perform the following procedure. For most skilled do-it-yourselfers the complete valve replacement is a good half day job, plus the cost of the new valve maybe $150, and you end up with a hole in the wall behind your shower. With my alternative procedure, you should be able to complete it in an hour or so, and the cost of the supplies (except tools) should be under $10.
Tools/material needed:drill, 1/8 drill bit, 7/32 drill bit, teflon tape, 1/4 20 tap, crescent wrench, 1/4-20 set screw or plug (preferably brass or nylon), coat hanger, small compressor, air blow gun attachment
You will notice the round hole in the bottom center inside the valve body. This is the outlet to the shower head. Directly below this hole, and just below the round opening to the valve body, you will see a small squared off area on the outside of the valve body. This squared off section is the passage way or port for the water output to the shower head. The flat front face of this channel measures about 1//2" square, and if you feel the sides of it, you can tell that it extends to the back of the valve body maybe about 1 1/4" or so.
To clear this channel you can drill into the front face of the brass valve casting body with a quality 7/32" steel bit. (You can make a pilot hole using a smaller 1/8" bit first if you like) Next use a 1/4 20 male tap and tap threads into the opening you just created. Using a coat hanger or similar wire, you can thoroughly clean out or dislodge any deposits inside the channel.
Next using compressed air from a compressor and a hand triggered blow off gunt, hold your index finger over the round outlet hole inside the main valve body opening, while at the same time forcing compressed air into the new tapped hold you just created. This air should dislodge any deposits and any water which remain, and they will forcefully exit above at the elbow at the shower head.
Using a good coating of teflon tape install a 1/4- 20 allen screw into the tapped hole, just 3-4 turns or until it's snug. You can also use a 1/4-20 brass or nylon plug if you can find one. To avoid corrosion on the plug or allen screw it's best to use one made of brass or stainless if you can find one. You can also use the threaded end of a nylon 1/4-20 bolt and cut off the head to make a plug if you can't find one. You can add you slot head to the end you cut off using a hack saw. Lowes and most hardware stores have nylon 1/4-20 x 1/2" bolts. Reinsert your cartridge, install the cartridge clip and the plastic knob. Install your shower head. Turn your water on, and bingo - you should have more water than you have seen from this shower in years!!!!
If it works for you , you just saved probably $500 you would have had to pay a plumber! Plus you have the immense satisfaction of saving a shower valve body that you would otherwise have had to trash.</span>

on Nov 04, 2010 | Plumbing

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How do you remove the old cartridge pn# 1222 after you have removed the temp. limit stop kit?


If you are referring to a Posi Temp cartridge they can be tough to remove from the valve body but there is a specific Moen 'puller' tool available. Basicially, once the 'U' shaped brass clip, which holds the cartridge on place is removed, the old cartridge (including the brass stem) will pull out completely. However they are frequently stuck in place and require some force to break free. A small plastic tool is included with the new cartridge - it isn't worth much, IMO but at least try it. Slide it over the stem so that it fits snuggly against the old cartridge and twist it with channel locks or crescent wrench. You may be successful in getting the cartridge to turn, one it does it will usually then pull out. Grasp the brass stem with vise grips/channel locks and pull the cartridge straight out. If it doesn't budge, you will likely need the specific tool mentioned above which screws into the stem (where the screw for the handle would normally fit) and is tightened down against the valve body. The pressure applied is similar to an auto. brake puller, pulling the valve out. Be careful in exerting any pressure against the valve body because it may not be adequately fastened to blocking inside the wall cavity and too much or excessive pulling may cause damage to the water supply lines.

Make sure before the install the new cartridge the valve body is clean and free of any build up. I usually take a little emery cloth and clean it out then flush the valve with water. Also use plenty of additional silicon/plumbers grease on all the black rubber seals before inserting it . Make sure it is not upside down and fits into the valve body all the way. The brass retaining clip is then re-inserted. Be careful not to lose it as a replacement is not included with the new valve and may not be easy to come by. Good luck!

Oct 25, 2010 | Moen & Replacement Cartridge

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No water when valve is turned all the way to hot side


Remove the faucet handle and trim. Close of the check valve stops on each side of the valve body with a flat screwdriver. Remove the balancing spool and Moen cartridge. Look for and mineral buildup in side the faucet and on the spool or cartridge. If there is buildup on the spool and cartridge, place them in a large bowel with a cup of vinegar and a teaspoon of baking soda. The solution will remove the buildup in a few minutes. Replace the Moen faucet parts and test the faucet. If there is buildup inside the faucet body, use a wire copper fitting brush to the remove the minerals from inside the spool and cartridge tubes of the faucet body. Turn the stop valves on just a little to wash out the debris before reinstalling the spool and moen faucet cartridge. If the is is still no pressure on the one side or the other, turn off all the water to the house and remove the check valve stops, clean them as well and the inside of the faucet. If all else fails, replace the stops, spool and cartridge. Beyond that, the water supply lines may need to be flushes with the same solution.bbfb399.jpg

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We have a hayward xstream pool pump for our 18' above ground pool that my daughter got through make a wish last august. we cleaned the cartridge yesterday and when we replaced the cartridge it started...


Try taking the pool filters cartridge out and following these steps to make sure that it is installed properly.
1. Clean debris from bottom of filter tank.
2. Replace element evenly on the collector hub in bottom of the filter body.
3. Place lid evenly on filter body and turn Easy-Lok™ ring clockwise until the safety latches engage securely.
4. Close and secure drain plug (located at the base of filter body).
5. Open air relief valve (Turn lever to left).
6. Open valves (Optional suction & return valves).
7. Prime and start the pump.
8. Once air has escaped the filter and a steady stream of water is flowing from the air relief valve, close the air relief valve and note the pressure gauge reading.

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When I turn the cold water faucet off water still runs out unless I back it off a quarter of a turn. It is the cold water valve for my tub. It is less than 5 years old. I can remove the decorative bell...


I dont know the modle fauset you have ,but it sounds like your cartridge has turned in the valve body. It should lock into place in the valve body with a tang in the cartridge and a slot or groove in the fauset body. If the whole cartridge assembly turns in the fauset it will couse this problem.

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Low water pressure in bath shower.


Assuming your pressure is OK in other parts of the house and with other fixtures in the same bathroom, check the showerhead screen for sediment, then pull the cartridge out of the valve body (first remove the cap on the knob, then the knob, then the sleeve with the protruding key-way, then the round trim plate. shut off the service stops, then remove the small retaining clip (needle nose pliers needed) that holds the cartridge in place. then screw the screw that holds the handle in partially to the stem and pry the cartridge out of the valve body by pulling straight out of the valve, I often use a claw hammer on the screw and pad it out from the wall with a thick book (or get a cartridge puller if you don't mind spending $20). You will likely see sediment clogging part of the cartridge, and when you partially open the service stops with the cartridge removed, you will also likely see dirty water and sediment. Thoroughly flush the valve body by opening both service stops for a few seconds and then reverse the process to put the whole thing back together. You may want to change the cartridge and replacements are widely available for the valve you mentioned above. Bring the old one with you as many look similar but are not the same.
Good luck. If you have more questions let me know and I can probably send you some pictures...

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How do I disassamble my one-handle kitchen faucet?


First ensure you have shut the water supply off at the stops- the small valves located underneath most plumbing appliances. Since we are speaking generically my comments may be a bit different depending on make and model. Most single handle faucets have a snap on cover over the base where the handle connects to the valve base. Pop this cover off and it will expose a screw that holds the handle onto the valve cartridge.You will need to remove this screw this will expose a nut/retainer that holds the cartridge in place- remove this item. Now will be able to pull the cartridge out using a pair of pliers. If the cartridge will not come out most home repair stores sell a cartridge extracting tool. This tool is a tee handle device that screws into the cartridge and has a nut that one tightens to break the cartridge free of the valve body. Some extreme cases will require some extreme pulling and snatching on the Tee handle to get the cartridge out. I personally dry the interior of the valve body a apply a thin coat of grease/lubricant to improve the service life of the new cartridge. Hope this is of assistance to you and thanks for using Fix Ya. If I can be of anymore assistance please let me know.

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