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HAVING TROUBLE WITH THE RUBBER SEAL. WHEN I TIGHTEN THE BOLTS AS FAR AS I CAN THE TANK STILL WOBBLES,HOW CAN I SOLVE THIS PROBLEM

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You will have some movement..........If to much movement use shorter bolts or build it up eith wasers.

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