Question about IBM ThinkCentre S50 8183 - P4 3 GHz (8183D9U) PC Desktop

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I've just bought this old IBM Thinkcentre P4 Desktop pc from a seller who added 2 x 512 DDR Ram, an ASUS DVD +-R, and an Audigy 2 sound card. Loaded it with a RC Win 7 32 bit OS and it set up fairly nicely. The sound card was updated and everything worked perfect. Taking delivery of the rig I tried to set up an XP Pro on the pc and it wouldn't load up. Now even on start up the IBM BIOS does not show up. I do not know if I have lost the Bios or what else is the problem. Will appreciate a few solutions to get it up and running. P.S. I like the old horse. Thanks

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  • yyousuf Aug 31, 2010

    The Bios that comes up isn't stable. It flickers with shadows and has lines across the screen. I also get a BSOD with intsructions to remove some added hardware or something.
    Is this an indication of RAM failure?

  • yyousuf Aug 31, 2010

    Thank you so much Dragazarth - you have been so much help, you give me hope.
    I wish to retain this pc and make it a workhorse.
    I;m in no big hurry as I have a laptop to do all my work.
    I shall check out all specs, you asked and post them to you.
    Good Nite to you my friend.

  • yyousuf Sep 01, 2010

    OK- these are the pc details:

    Machine Type: 8183
    Model No: P47
    S/N : 99Z6124

    CPU: 3.00 Ghz
    Ram: 1 GB
    HDD: 320GB Sata
    Optical : Asus DVD RW

    Dragz, there seems to be another problem - The body of the pc, I mean the entire casing gets electrically charged. I can feel it when I get the shock on touch - plus it also shows on a tester.
    So the power is leaking somewhere. I just can't figure out where.

  • yyousuf Sep 01, 2010

    OK Buddy! There's plenty of things for me to do and I should be out of my depths here. Tell you what I'll take it to the shop and let the old hag do it over while I look and guide it as you have indicated and inform you of the results a couple of days from now.
    Btw, The Machine Type is: 3188, Model: P47, S/N: 99Z6124

    Let me know if you can find something new from Lenovo and muchas gracias for everything my friend.
    yyousuf

  • yyousuf Sep 01, 2010

    A few more details - Motherboard: REV: 2.7 FRJ PN 89P7946 Made in China - PSU: Lite On output DC 230V Model N: PS -5022 - 3M FRU Part No: 74P4300

    Once again Thanx buddy.

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I cant believe that the bios doesnt start up!?
try mashing F9 or F12 or DEL as soon as youve started it up to see. If the bios aint starting up, its probably a big hardware problem (like you've broken the motherboard or similar)
You sure you've the bios isn't working? Does it POST at all? other wise maybe its just a faulty hdd, try putting the HDD into another computer, wiping it completely and booting.
Most computers wont boot at all if there CPU isn't properly (or isnt) in same for the CPU fan and video adapters. Try reseating everything and see what happens.
Does it beep at all? maybe its a problem with the RAM, have a look at the model numbers of everything and check the the specs match up with whatever motherboard it uses.

Posted on Aug 31, 2010

Testimonial: "Dear Sir, with F12 I do get to the bios, but it stays that way - no options shown and then flickers with horizontal lines all over the screen. Thnx "

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  • Dragazarth Aug 31, 2010

    Okay then....
    Firstly you said you had win 7 RC. Since it was RC Microsoft has pretty much disabled that.

    Try:
    Booting xp from disk. One of the keys: F2 F12 f10/8 del maybe even esc should open a small boot menu. Try choosing DVD/cd to boot from (make sure you have xp disk in first)

    Also:
    What is full model name of your computer. And if you know, the motherboard.

    For the flickering try updating your bios if you know how. (google should help you here (various methods and different motherboards require different bioses))

    OR

    Your problems may be stemming from a flat CMOS battery (use a multimeter to make sure its good or google it to show you how to replace). Or I think it could be your power supply. I'm not entirely sure how to check but google is your friend. I would but it's 23.55 where I am and I'm writing this from my itouch which is almost flat.

    In summary

    Check
    Psu. CMOS BATTERY model number. Bios info
    Try
    Booting from xp disk. Formating hdd on another computer. Reseating all components.

    Perhaps take some photos/ movie and upload it so I can see exactly what you mean. (I'm not sure about your flickering)

    Sorry I'm of so little help

    I'll reply tomorrow morning 2mins to go!
    Best wishes!

  • Dragazarth Aug 31, 2010

    Okay then....
    Firstly you said you had win 7 RC. Since it was RC Microsoft has pretty much disabled that.

    Try:
    Booting xp from disk. One of the keys: F2 F12 f10/8 del maybe even esc should open a small boot menu. Try choosing DVD/cd to boot from (make sure you have xp disk in first)

    Also:
    What is full model name of your computer. And if you know, the motherboard.

    For the flickering try updating your bios if you know how. (google should help you here (various methods and different motherboards require different bioses))

    OR

    Your problems may be stemming from a flat CMOS battery (use a multimeter to make sure its good or google it to show you how to replace). Or I think it could be your power supply. I'm not entirely sure how to check but google is your friend. I would but it's 23.55 where I am and I'm writing this from my itouch which is almost flat.

    In summary

    Check
    Psu. CMOS BATTERY model number. Bios info
    Try
    Booting from xp disk. Formating hdd on another computer. Reseating all components.

    Perhaps take some photos/ movie and upload it so I can see exactly what you mean. (I'm not sure about your flickering)

    Sorry I'm of so little help

    I'll reply tomorrow morning 2mins to go!
    Best wishes!

  • Dragazarth Aug 31, 2010

    Okay then....
    Firstly you said you had win 7 RC. Since it was RC Microsoft has pretty much disabled that.

    Try:
    Booting xp from disk. One of the keys: F2 F12 f10/8 del maybe even esc should open a small boot menu. Try choosing DVD/cd to boot from (make sure you have xp disk in first)

    Also:
    What is full model name of your computer. And if you know, the motherboard.

    For the flickering try updating your bios if you know how. (google should help you here (various methods and different motherboards require different bioses))

    OR

    Your problems may be stemming from a flat CMOS battery (use a multimeter to make sure its good or google it to show you how to replace). Or I think it could be your power supply. I'm not entirely sure how to check but google is your friend. I would but it's 23.55 where I am and I'm writing this from my itouch which is almost flat.

    In summary

    Check
    Psu. CMOS BATTERY model number. Bios info
    Try
    Booting from xp disk. Formating hdd on another computer. Reseating all components.

    Perhaps take some photos/ movie and upload it so I can see exactly what you mean. (I'm not sure about your flickering). Also use arrow keys and enter in bios to navigate should be very plain looking

    Sorry I'm of so little help

    I'll reply tomorrow morning 2mins to go!
    Best wishes!

  • Dragazarth Aug 31, 2010

    Okay then....
    Firstly you said you had win 7 RC. Since it was RC Microsoft has pretty much disabled that.

    Try:
    Booting xp from disk. One of the keys: F2 F12 f10/8 del maybe even esc should open a small boot menu. Try choosing DVD/cd to boot from (make sure you have xp disk in first)

    Also:
    What is full model name of your computer. And if you know, the motherboard.

    For the flickering try updating your bios if you know how. (google should help you here (various methods and different motherboards require different bioses))

    OR

    Your problems may be stemming from a flat CMOS battery (use a multimeter to make sure its good or google it to show you how to replace). Or I think it could be your power supply. I'm not entirely sure how to check but google is your friend. I would but it's 23.55 where I am and I'm writing this from my itouch which is almost flat.

    In summary

    Check
    Psu. CMOS BATTERY model number. Bios info
    Try
    Booting from xp disk. Formating hdd on another computer. Reseating all components.

    Perhaps take some photos/ movie and upload it so I can see exactly what you mean. (I'm not sure about your flickering). Also use arrow keys and enter in bios to navigate should be very plain looking

    Sorry I'm of so little help

    I'll reply tomorrow morning 2mins to go!
    Best wishes!

  • Dragazarth Aug 31, 2010

    Okay then....
    Firstly you said you had win 7 RC. Since it was RC Microsoft has pretty much disabled that.

    Try:
    Booting xp from disk. One of the keys: F2 F12 f10/8 del maybe even esc should open a small boot menu. Try choosing DVD/cd to boot from (make sure you have xp disk in first)

    Also:
    What is full model name of your computer. And if you know, the motherboard.

    For the flickering try updating your bios if you know how. (google should help you here (various methods and different motherboards require different bioses))

    OR

    Your problems may be stemming from a flat CMOS battery (use a multimeter to make sure its good or google it to show you how to replace). Or I think it could be your power supply. I'm not entirely sure how to check but google is your friend. I would but it's 23.55 where I am and I'm writing this from my itouch which is almost flat.

    In summary

    Check
    Psu. CMOS BATTERY model number. Bios info
    Try
    Booting from xp disk. Formating hdd on another computer. Reseating all components.

    Perhaps take some photos/ movie and upload it so I can see exactly what you mean. (I'm not sure about your flickering). Also use arrow keys and enter in bios to navigate should be very plain looking

    Sorry I'm of so little help

    I'll reply tomorrow morning 2mins to go!
    Best wishes!

  • Dragazarth Aug 31, 2010

    Okay then....
    Firstly you said you had win 7 RC. Since it was RC Microsoft has pretty much disabled that.

    Try:
    Booting xp from disk. One of the keys: F2 F12 f10/8 del maybe even esc should open a small boot menu. Try choosing DVD/cd to boot from (make sure you have xp disk in first)

    Also:
    What is full model name of your computer. And if you know, the motherboard.

    For the flickering try updating your bios if you know how. (google should help you here (various methods and different motherboards require different bioses))

    OR

    Your problems may be stemming from a flat CMOS battery (use a multimeter to make sure its good or google it to show you how to replace). Or I think it could be your power supply. I'm not entirely sure how to check but google is your friend. I would but it's 23.55 where I am and I'm writing this from my itouch which is almost flat.

    In summary

    Check
    Psu. CMOS BATTERY model number. Bios info
    Try
    Booting from xp disk. Formating hdd on another computer. Reseating all components.

    Perhaps take some photos/ movie and upload it so I can see exactly what you mean. (I'm not sure about your flickering). Also use arrow keys and enter in bios to navigate should be very plain looking

    Sorry I'm of so little help

    I'll reply tomorrow morning 2mins to go!
    Best wishes!

  • Dragazarth Aug 31, 2010

    Okay then....
    Firstly you said you had win 7 RC. Since it was RC Microsoft has pretty much disabled that.

    Try:
    Booting xp from disk. One of the keys: F2 F12 f10/8 del maybe even esc should open a small boot menu. Try choosing DVD/cd to boot from (make sure you have xp disk in first)

    Also:
    What is full model name of your computer. And if you know, the motherboard.

    For the flickering try updating your bios if you know how. (google should help you here (various methods and different motherboards require different bioses))

    OR

    Your problems may be stemming from a flat CMOS battery (use a multimeter to make sure its good or google it to show you how to replace). Or I think it could be your power supply. I'm not entirely sure how to check but google is your friend. I would but it's 23.55 where I am and I'm writing this from my itouch which is almost flat.

    In summary

    Check
    Psu. CMOS BATTERY model number. Bios info
    Try
    Booting from xp disk. Formating hdd on another computer. Reseating all components.

    Perhaps take some photos/ movie and upload it so I can see exactly what you mean. (I'm not sure about your flickering). Also use arrow keys and enter in bios to navigate should be very plain looking

    Sorry I'm of so little help

    I'll reply tomorrow morning 2mins to go!
    Best wishes!

  • Dragazarth Aug 31, 2010

    Okay then....
    Firstly you said you had win 7 RC. Since it was RC Microsoft has pretty much disabled that.

    Try:
    Booting xp from disk. One of the keys: F2 F12 f10/8 del maybe even esc should open a small boot menu. Try choosing DVD/cd to boot from (make sure you have xp disk in first)

    Also:
    What is full model name of your computer. And if you know, the motherboard.

    For the flickering try updating your bios if you know how. (google should help you here (various methods and different motherboards require different bioses))

    OR

    Your problems may be stemming from a flat CMOS battery (use a multimeter to make sure its good or google it to show you how to replace). Or I think it could be your power supply. I'm not entirely sure how to check but google is your friend. I would but it's 23.55 where I am and I'm writing this from my itouch which is almost flat.

    In summary

    Check
    Psu. CMOS BATTERY model number. Bios info
    Try
    Booting from xp disk. Formating hdd on another computer. Reseating all components.

    Perhaps take some photos/ movie and upload it so I can see exactly what you mean. (I'm not sure about your flickering). Also use arrow keys and enter in bios to navigate should be very plain looking

    Sorry I'm of so little help

    I'll reply tomorrow morning 2mins to go!
    Best wishes!

  • Dragazarth Aug 31, 2010

    Okay then....
    Firstly you said you had win 7 RC. Since it was RC Microsoft has pretty much disabled that.

    Try:
    Booting xp from disk. One of the keys: F2 F12 f10/8 del maybe even esc should open a small boot menu. Try choosing DVD/cd to boot from (make sure you have xp disk in first)

    Also:
    What is full model name of your computer. And if you know, the motherboard.

    For the flickering try updating your bios if you know how. (google should help you here (various methods and different motherboards require different bioses))

    OR

    Your problems may be stemming from a flat CMOS battery (use a multimeter to make sure its good or google it to show you how to replace). Or I think it could be your power supply. I'm not entirely sure how to check but google is your friend. I would but it's 23.55 where I am and I'm writing this from my itouch which is almost flat.

    In summary

    Check
    Psu. CMOS BATTERY model number. Bios info
    Try
    Booting from xp disk. Formating hdd on another computer. Reseating all components.

    Perhaps take some photos/ movie and upload it so I can see exactly what you mean. (I'm not sure about your flickering). Also use arrow keys and enter in bios to navigate should be very plain looking

    Sorry I'm of so little help

    I'll reply tomorrow morning 2mins to go!
    Best wishes!

  • Dragazarth Aug 31, 2010

    Okay then....
    Firstly you said you had win 7 RC. Since it was RC Microsoft has pretty much disabled that.

    Try:
    Booting xp from disk. One of the keys: F2 F12 f10/8 del maybe even esc should open a small boot menu. Try choosing DVD/cd to boot from (make sure you have xp disk in first)

    Also:
    What is full model name of your computer. And if you know, the motherboard.

    For the flickering try updating your bios if you know how. (google should help you here (various methods and different motherboards require different bioses))

    OR

    Your problems may be stemming from a flat CMOS battery (use a multimeter to make sure its good or google it to show you how to replace). Or I think it could be your power supply. I'm not entirely sure how to check but google is your friend. I would but it's 23.55 where I am and I'm writing this from my itouch which is almost flat.

    In summary

    Check
    Psu. CMOS BATTERY model number. Bios info
    Try
    Booting from xp disk. Formating hdd on another computer. Reseating all components.

    Perhaps take some photos/ movie and upload it so I can see exactly what you mean. (I'm not sure about your flickering). Also use arrow keys and enter in bios to navigate should be very plain looking

    Sorry I'm of so little help

    I'll reply tomorrow morning 2mins to go!
    Best wishes!

  • Dragazarth Aug 31, 2010

    Okay then....
    Firstly you said you had win 7 RC. Since it was RC Microsoft has pretty much disabled that.

    Try:
    Booting xp from disk. One of the keys: F2 F12 f10/8 del maybe even esc should open a small boot menu. Try choosing DVD/cd to boot from (make sure you have xp disk in first)

    Also:
    What is full model name of your computer. And if you know, the motherboard.

    For the flickering try updating your bios if you know how. (google should help you here (various methods and different motherboards require different bioses))

    OR

    Your problems may be stemming from a flat CMOS battery (use a multimeter to make sure its good or google it to show you how to replace). Or I think it could be your power supply. I'm not entirely sure how to check but google is your friend. I would but it's 23.55 where I am and I'm writing this from my itouch which is almost flat.

    In summary

    Check
    Psu. CMOS BATTERY model number. Bios info
    Try
    Booting from xp disk. Formating hdd on another computer. Reseating all components.

    Perhaps take some photos/ movie and upload it so I can see exactly what you mean. (I'm not sure about your flickering). Also use arrow keys and enter in bios to navigate should be very plain looking

    Sorry I'm of so little help

    I'll reply tomorrow morning 2mins to go!
    Best wishes!

  • Dragazarth Sep 01, 2010

    okay well... you obviously have some problems!

    I casing should definetly not be getting charged, Try find out where this leak is coming from.
    If I were you I would pull the computer to bits. I mean pull out the mother board and the power supply and all plugs, then start rebuilding it, making sure you have suitable motherboard risers etc. If you dont know how to do this there are plenty of guides on the net. Also take some photos of each section just so if you dont know what to do you can replicate the old config.

    The BSOD could be caused by any piece of hardware, try taking out all unnecessary things, such as the sound card

    also take out the ram and try turning it on, as that it should beep at you, but it should show some writing (and you might be able to get the the bios)

    I think that either your power supply is stuffed, or there is some loose connection or something similar messing with it.
    Its also possible that some component may have blown itself on the actual motherboard, you said that you could see charge on the multimeter, so its probably not static electricity, if you could get a reading of the power that is actually being applied it might give some idea of what wire or thing is powering it. I would keep yourself protected by using a ground wire (you can get them from some computer shops as "anti static wrist straps"

    Take it to your local PC shop and tell them that you think that the PSU may be broken and if you could see another and if it works (loads bios properly) tell them that youll buy the psu if it does work.

    Do you have the model no and make of your actual motherboard and ram? in the bios it may flash a screen of it. Its very strange to have a flashing bios could be something else interfering or a power leak, can you try it on a different screen at a different location.

    When power is all off check all cords and stuff to make sure they are ripped/torn/shredded at all.

    Also I was looking up your computer model, since lenovo took over the "think-----" computers i was looking there, but i couldnt find anything with 8183 and P47... are all the numbers correct?
    summary:
    Pull everything apart, and start from scratch. See if it will boot with just cpu, then just cpu and ram etc

    Check Power Supply

    DONT KILL YOUR SELF! If your not sure. DONT do it (this is when your working with any part but especially the PSU)

    also have you tried booting from the disk at all?

    and check the CMOS battery below link shows you how to do ithttp://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000...

    Have a rage, always makes me feel better

    maybe email/ring Lenovo? this may either alleviate frustration or kill you depending on their customer support
    hope this helps
    (soz about 3 messages below, i was doing that from my itouch and it wouldn't submit properly so i kept pressing it!)

    Check out these 2 sites. Try also perhaps sending a email to the lenovo people if you have time. If you have the product number you may be able to go straight to it (form on right side of page)http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.w...

  • Dragazarth Sep 01, 2010

    okay well... you obviously have some problems!

    I casing should definetly not be getting charged, Try find out where this leak is coming from.
    If I were you I would pull the computer to bits. I mean pull out the mother board and the power supply and all plugs, then start rebuilding it, making sure you have suitable motherboard risers etc. If you dont know how to do this there are plenty of guides on the net. Also take some photos of each section just so if you dont know what to do you can replicate the old config.

    The BSOD could be caused by any piece of hardware, try taking out all unnecessary things, such as the sound card

    also take out the ram and try turning it on, as that it should beep at you, but it should show some writing (and you might be able to get the the bios)

    I think that either your power supply is stuffed, or there is some loose connection or something similar messing with it.
    Its also possible that some component may have blown itself on the actual motherboard, you said that you could see charge on the multimeter, so its probably not static electricity, if you could get a reading of the power that is actually being applied it might give some idea of what wire or thing is powering it. I would keep yourself protected by using a ground wire (you can get them from some computer shops as "anti static wrist straps"

    Take it to your local PC shop and tell them that you think that the PSU may be broken and if you could see another and if it works (loads bios properly) tell them that youll buy the psu if it does work.

    Do you have the model no and make of your actual motherboard and ram? in the bios it may flash a screen of it. Its very strange to have a flashing bios could be something else interfering or a power leak, can you try it on a different screen at a different location.

    When power is all off check all cords and stuff to make sure they are ripped/torn/shredded at all.

    Also I was looking up your computer model, since lenovo took over the "think-----" computers i was looking there, but i couldnt find anything with 8183 and P47... are all the numbers correct?
    summary:
    Pull everything apart, and start from scratch. See if it will boot with just cpu, then just cpu and ram etc

    Check Power Supply

    DONT KILL YOUR SELF! If your not sure. DONT do it (this is when your working with any part but especially the PSU)

    also have you tried booting from the disk at all?

    and check the CMOS battery below link shows you how to do ithttp://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000...

    Have a rage, always makes me feel better

    maybe email/ring Lenovo? this may either alleviate frustration or kill you depending on their customer support
    hope this helps
    (soz about 3 messages below, i was doing that from my itouch and it wouldn't submit properly so i kept pressing it!)

    Check out these 2 sites. Try also perhaps sending a email to the lenovo people if you have time. If you have the product number you may be able to go straight to it (form on right side of page)http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.w...

  • Dragazarth Sep 01, 2010

    okay well... you obviously have some problems!

    I casing should definetly not be getting charged, Try find out where this leak is coming from.
    If I were you I would pull the computer to bits. I mean pull out the mother board and the power supply and all plugs, then start rebuilding it, making sure you have suitable motherboard risers etc. If you dont know how to do this there are plenty of guides on the net. Also take some photos of each section just so if you dont know what to do you can replicate the old config.

    The BSOD could be caused by any piece of hardware, try taking out all unnecessary things, such as the sound card

    also take out the ram and try turning it on, as that it should beep at you, but it should show some writing (and you might be able to get the the bios)

    I think that either your power supply is stuffed, or there is some loose connection or something similar messing with it.
    Its also possible that some component may have blown itself on the actual motherboard, you said that you could see charge on the multimeter, so its probably not static electricity, if you could get a reading of the power that is actually being applied it might give some idea of what wire or thing is powering it. I would keep yourself protected by using a ground wire (you can get them from some computer shops as "anti static wrist straps"

    Take it to your local PC shop and tell them that you think that the PSU may be broken and if you could see another and if it works (loads bios properly) tell them that youll buy the psu if it does work.

    Do you have the model no and make of your actual motherboard and ram? in the bios it may flash a screen of it. Its very strange to have a flashing bios could be something else interfering or a power leak, can you try it on a different screen at a different location.

    When power is all off check all cords and stuff to make sure they are ripped/torn/shredded at all.

    Also I was looking up your computer model, since lenovo took over the "think-----" computers i was looking there, but i couldnt find anything with 8183 and P47... are all the numbers correct?
    summary:
    Pull everything apart, and start from scratch. See if it will boot with just cpu, then just cpu and ram etc

    Check Power Supply

    DONT KILL YOUR SELF! If your not sure. DONT do it (this is when your working with any part but especially the PSU)

    also have you tried booting from the disk at all?

    and check the CMOS battery below link shows you how to do ithttp://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000...

    Have a rage, always makes me feel better

    maybe email/ring Lenovo? this may either alleviate frustration or kill you depending on their customer support
    hope this helps
    (soz about 3 messages below, i was doing that from my itouch and it wouldn't submit properly so i kept pressing it!)

    Check out these 2 sites. Try also perhaps sending a email to the lenovo people if you have time. If you have the product number you may be able to go straight to it (form on right side of page)http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.w...

  • Dragazarth Sep 01, 2010

    okay well... you obviously have some problems!

    I casing should definetly not be getting charged, Try find out where this leak is coming from.
    If I were you I would pull the computer to bits. I mean pull out the mother board and the power supply and all plugs, then start rebuilding it, making sure you have suitable motherboard risers etc. If you dont know how to do this there are plenty of guides on the net. Also take some photos of each section just so if you dont know what to do you can replicate the old config.

    The BSOD could be caused by any piece of hardware, try taking out all unnecessary things, such as the sound card

    also take out the ram and try turning it on, as that it should beep at you, but it should show some writing (and you might be able to get the the bios)

    I think that either your power supply is stuffed, or there is some loose connection or something similar messing with it.
    Its also possible that some component may have blown itself on the actual motherboard, you said that you could see charge on the multimeter, so its probably not static electricity, if you could get a reading of the power that is actually being applied it might give some idea of what wire or thing is powering it. I would keep yourself protected by using a ground wire (you can get them from some computer shops as "anti static wrist straps"

    Take it to your local PC shop and tell them that you think that the PSU may be broken and if you could see another and if it works (loads bios properly) tell them that youll buy the psu if it does work.

    Do you have the model no and make of your actual motherboard and ram? in the bios it may flash a screen of it. Its very strange to have a flashing bios could be something else interfering or a power leak, can you try it on a different screen at a different location.

    When power is all off check all cords and stuff to make sure they are ripped/torn/shredded at all.

    Also I was looking up your computer model, since lenovo took over the "think-----" computers i was looking there, but i couldnt find anything with 8183 and P47... are all the numbers correct?
    summary:
    Pull everything apart, and start from scratch. See if it will boot with just cpu, then just cpu and ram etc

    Check Power Supply

    DONT KILL YOUR SELF! If your not sure. DONT do it (this is when your working with any part but especially the PSU)

    also have you tried booting from the disk at all?

    and check the CMOS battery below link shows you how to do ithttp://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000...

    Have a rage, always makes me feel better

    maybe email/ring Lenovo? this may either alleviate frustration or kill you depending on their customer support
    hope this helps
    (soz about 3 messages below, i was doing that from my itouch and it wouldn't submit properly so i kept pressing it!)

    Check out these 2 sites. Try also perhaps sending a email to the lenovo people if you have time. If you have the product number you may be able to go straight to it (form on right side of page)http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.w...

  • Dragazarth Sep 01, 2010

    okay well... you obviously have some problems!

    I casing should definetly not be getting charged, Try find out where this leak is coming from.
    If I were you I would pull the computer to bits. I mean pull out the mother board and the power supply and all plugs, then start rebuilding it, making sure you have suitable motherboard risers etc. If you dont know how to do this there are plenty of guides on the net. Also take some photos of each section just so if you dont know what to do you can replicate the old config.

    The BSOD could be caused by any piece of hardware, try taking out all unnecessary things, such as the sound card

    also take out the ram and try turning it on, as that it should beep at you, but it should show some writing (and you might be able to get the the bios)

    I think that either your power supply is stuffed, or there is some loose connection or something similar messing with it.
    Its also possible that some component may have blown itself on the actual motherboard, you said that you could see charge on the multimeter, so its probably not static electricity, if you could get a reading of the power that is actually being applied it might give some idea of what wire or thing is powering it. I would keep yourself protected by using a ground wire (you can get them from some computer shops as "anti static wrist straps"

    Take it to your local PC shop and tell them that you think that the PSU may be broken and if you could see another and if it works (loads bios properly) tell them that youll buy the psu if it does work.

    Do you have the model no and make of your actual motherboard and ram? in the bios it may flash a screen of it. Its very strange to have a flashing bios could be something else interfering or a power leak, can you try it on a different screen at a different location.

    When power is all off check all cords and stuff to make sure they are ripped/torn/shredded at all.

    Also I was looking up your computer model, since lenovo took over the "think-----" computers i was looking there, but i couldnt find anything with 8183 and P47... are all the numbers correct?
    summary:
    Pull everything apart, and start from scratch. See if it will boot with just cpu, then just cpu and ram etc

    Check Power Supply

    DONT KILL YOUR SELF! If your not sure. DONT do it (this is when your working with any part but especially the PSU)

    also have you tried booting from the disk at all?

    and check the CMOS battery below link shows you how to do ithttp://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000...

    Have a rage, always makes me feel better

    maybe email/ring Lenovo? this may either alleviate frustration or kill you depending on their customer support
    hope this helps
    (soz about 3 messages below, i was doing that from my itouch and it wouldn't submit properly so i kept pressing it!)

    Check out these 2 sites. Try also perhaps sending a email to the lenovo people if you have time. If you have the product number you may be able to go straight to it (form on right side of page)http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.w...

  • Dragazarth Sep 01, 2010

    okay well... you obviously have some problems!

    I casing should definetly not be getting charged, Try find out where this leak is coming from.
    If I were you I would pull the computer to bits. I mean pull out the mother board and the power supply and all plugs, then start rebuilding it, making sure you have suitable motherboard risers etc. If you dont know how to do this there are plenty of guides on the net. Also take some photos of each section just so if you dont know what to do you can replicate the old config.

    The BSOD could be caused by any piece of hardware, try taking out all unnecessary things, such as the sound card

    also take out the ram and try turning it on, as that it should beep at you, but it should show some writing (and you might be able to get the the bios)

    I think that either your power supply is stuffed, or there is some loose connection or something similar messing with it.
    Its also possible that some component may have blown itself on the actual motherboard, you said that you could see charge on the multimeter, so its probably not static electricity, if you could get a reading of the power that is actually being applied it might give some idea of what wire or thing is powering it. I would keep yourself protected by using a ground wire (you can get them from some computer shops as "anti static wrist straps"

    Take it to your local PC shop and tell them that you think that the PSU may be broken and if you could see another and if it works (loads bios properly) tell them that youll buy the psu if it does work.

    Do you have the model no and make of your actual motherboard and ram? in the bios it may flash a screen of it. Its very strange to have a flashing bios could be something else interfering or a power leak, can you try it on a different screen at a different location.

    When power is all off check all cords and stuff to make sure they are ripped/torn/shredded at all.

    Also I was looking up your computer model, since lenovo took over the "think-----" computers i was looking there, but i couldnt find anything with 8183 and P47... are all the numbers correct?
    summary:
    Pull everything apart, and start from scratch. See if it will boot with just cpu, then just cpu and ram etc

    Check Power Supply

    DONT KILL YOUR SELF! If your not sure. DONT do it (this is when your working with any part but especially the PSU)

    also have you tried booting from the disk at all?

    and check the CMOS battery below link shows you how to do ithttp://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000...

    Have a rage, always makes me feel better

    maybe email/ring Lenovo? this may either alleviate frustration or kill you depending on their customer support
    hope this helps
    (soz about 3 messages below, i was doing that from my itouch and it wouldn't submit properly so i kept pressing it!)

    Check out these 2 sites. Try also perhaps sending a email to the lenovo people if you have time. If you have the product number you may be able to go straight to it (form on right side of page)http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.w...

  • Dragazarth Sep 01, 2010

    okay well... you obviously have some problems!

    I casing should definetly not be getting charged, Try find out where this leak is coming from.
    If I were you I would pull the computer to bits. I mean pull out the mother board and the power supply and all plugs, then start rebuilding it, making sure you have suitable motherboard risers etc. If you dont know how to do this there are plenty of guides on the net. Also take some photos of each section just so if you dont know what to do you can replicate the old config.

    The BSOD could be caused by any piece of hardware, try taking out all unnecessary things, such as the sound card

    also take out the ram and try turning it on, as that it should beep at you, but it should show some writing (and you might be able to get the the bios)

    I think that either your power supply is stuffed, or there is some loose connection or something similar messing with it.
    Its also possible that some component may have blown itself on the actual motherboard, you said that you could see charge on the multimeter, so its probably not static electricity, if you could get a reading of the power that is actually being applied it might give some idea of what wire or thing is powering it. I would keep yourself protected by using a ground wire (you can get them from some computer shops as "anti static wrist straps"

    Take it to your local PC shop and tell them that you think that the PSU may be broken and if you could see another and if it works (loads bios properly) tell them that youll buy the psu if it does work.

    Do you have the model no and make of your actual motherboard and ram? in the bios it may flash a screen of it. Its very strange to have a flashing bios could be something else interfering or a power leak, can you try it on a different screen at a different location.

    When power is all off check all cords and stuff to make sure they are ripped/torn/shredded at all.

    Also I was looking up your computer model, since lenovo took over the "think-----" computers i was looking there, but i couldnt find anything with 8183 and P47... are all the numbers correct?
    summary:
    Pull everything apart, and start from scratch. See if it will boot with just cpu, then just cpu and ram etc

    Check Power Supply

    DONT KILL YOUR SELF! If your not sure. DONT do it (this is when your working with any part but especially the PSU)

    also have you tried booting from the disk at all?

    and check the CMOS battery below link shows you how to do ithttp://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000...

    Have a rage, always makes me feel better

    maybe email/ring Lenovo? this may either alleviate frustration or kill you depending on their customer support
    hope this helps
    (soz about 3 messages below, i was doing that from my itouch and it wouldn't submit properly so i kept pressing it!)

    Check out these 2 sites. Try also perhaps sending a email to the lenovo people if you have time. If you have the product number you may be able to go straight to it (form on right side of page)http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.w...

  • Dragazarth Sep 01, 2010

    okay well... you obviously have some problems!

    I casing should definetly not be getting charged, Try find out where this leak is coming from.
    If I were you I would pull the computer to bits. I mean pull out the mother board and the power supply and all plugs, then start rebuilding it, making sure you have suitable motherboard risers etc. If you dont know how to do this there are plenty of guides on the net. Also take some photos of each section just so if you dont know what to do you can replicate the old config.

    The BSOD could be caused by any piece of hardware, try taking out all unnecessary things, such as the sound card

    also take out the ram and try turning it on, as that it should beep at you, but it should show some writing (and you might be able to get the the bios)

    I think that either your power supply is stuffed, or there is some loose connection or something similar messing with it.
    Its also possible that some component may have blown itself on the actual motherboard, you said that you could see charge on the multimeter, so its probably not static electricity, if you could get a reading of the power that is actually being applied it might give some idea of what wire or thing is powering it. I would keep yourself protected by using a ground wire (you can get them from some computer shops as "anti static wrist straps"

    Take it to your local PC shop and tell them that you think that the PSU may be broken and if you could see another and if it works (loads bios properly) tell them that youll buy the psu if it does work.

    Do you have the model no and make of your actual motherboard and ram? in the bios it may flash a screen of it. Its very strange to have a flashing bios could be something else interfering or a power leak, can you try it on a different screen at a different location.

    When power is all off check all cords and stuff to make sure they are ripped/torn/shredded at all.

    Also I was looking up your computer model, since lenovo took over the "think-----" computers i was looking there, but i couldnt find anything with 8183 and P47... are all the numbers correct?
    summary:
    Pull everything apart, and start from scratch. See if it will boot with just cpu, then just cpu and ram etc

    Check Power Supply

    DONT KILL YOUR SELF! If your not sure. DONT do it (this is when your working with any part but especially the PSU)

    also have you tried booting from the disk at all?

    and check the CMOS battery below link shows you how to do ithttp://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000...

    Have a rage, always makes me feel better

    maybe email/ring Lenovo? this may either alleviate frustration or kill you depending on their customer support
    hope this helps
    (soz about 3 messages below, i was doing that from my itouch and it wouldn't submit properly so i kept pressing it!)

    Check out these 2 sites. Try also perhaps sending a email to the lenovo people if you have time. If you have the product number you may be able to go straight to it (form on right side of page)http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.w...

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