Question about Microsoft SideWinder Precision Pro 2.0 Joystick

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Serial joystick I've purchased an older Dell Pentium I and put a ISA SB16 card with gameport in the PCI to ISA bridge slot. Windows 95 recognizes with card and game port and software for the joystick enables me to use the joystick in Windows 95 (highest operating system available at the time) environment to calibrate. Problem exists when I try and use the joystick in true dos mode after reboot with popular game loaded Wing Commander's Privateer 2. I am using a boot disk but I am concerned that perhaps the joystick drivers aren't being loaded for the game. I just don't know how to load them. Can you help me?

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  • Cybermykl May 07, 2008

    Absolutely, in WC Privateer 2, you can switch from mouse to joystick (2 different modes of joystick one with/without throttle). So far only able to fly with mouse and it is very disconcerting. In WC Privateer 1 before you load a game you can choose and calibrate your gaming device but in Privateer 2 you do so from what is called a PAD "P" on keyboard inside of game at a planet (per se).

  • Cybermykl May 07, 2008

    The CD didn't allow me to do that within DOS.

  • Cybermykl May 07, 2008

    The joystick's installation program (MS Sidewinder Precision Pro 2.o) that is will not work in DOS mode, will it? No, I just tried it. I'm using an AMD Athlon 64 x 2 core with peripherals tied to a KVM switch. Checking your suggestions will be easy for me to do. Just fire away.

  • Cybermykl May 07, 2008

    Just finished eating dinner, sorry for delayed response. Will try your suggestions IrishDruid and check out the pages you sent. Thanks, and I'll get back to you before rating.

  • Cybermykl May 08, 2008

    Dell Optiplex GXPRO 180 Bios A08
    Integrated devices: Sound On,
    NIC: ON; Mouse: ON; Serial Port 1: Auto; Serial Port 2: Auto; Parallell Port: 378h; Parallel Mode: PS/2; IDE Hard Disk: auto; diskette: auto; speaker: on.

    No mention of a switch in cmos/setup to change PnP on/off. (Phoenix Bios Pro 1.10 ver A08.)

    The installation for SB16 Plug and Play with oncard gameport installed with dos drivers and sound in dos game is great.

    Researched CD installation disk that came wiht MS SideWinder Precision Pro and not sure what files I should be looking for. I did however reinstall the software. This did not help, however.

    Should there be a line in the config.sys or Autoexec.bat files that point to joystick? If so, what are they?

    I do have a MSINPUT.INI file in the program file of the c:\program files\microsoft hardware\msinput.ini which reads:
    [Setup]
    Game Controllers.Win95=C:\Program Files
    \Microsoft Hardware\Game Controllers

    These files are in a separate directory - not windows.

    The links didn't offer any clues.

  • Cybermykl May 08, 2008

    Hi Jack,

    downloaded the winrar file from Shrekken's setup file and expanded it. But, where does this file install to? Sorry, I'm not to software savvy.

  • Cybermykl May 08, 2008

    This is for IrishDruid,

    Precision Pro is a digital stick and will not therefore play in real dos. Changed to MS Sidewinder 3D Pro which I had and upgraded to the digital when using the MS Flight Sims. Strange how the joystick will work in the windows environment and not in the real dos environment and it's just software and hardware. Hmmm... anyway, After plugging in the 3D pro and reloading the software for it, tried it on in the Privateer 2 universe and it still didn't work. Not sure why...perhaps, you guys will earn my money and figure it out. Am now using an analogue joystick - MS Sidewinder 3D Pro.

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If you have Windows 95/98 its best to run in pure DOS mode by selecting Start -> Shutdown -> Restart in MSDOS Mode. Don't use the bootup disk..

Sound Card also has to have DOS Drivers for it's Game Port to work. Check Manufactures web site for more details.

MS Sidewinders can use CH FlightStick Pro setting in Control panel. CH Flightstick Pro is recognized in DOS games launched from Windows.

Try disabling 'PnP OS' in cmos/bios setup. When that happens the card may not respond to the game. That's why you often need to disable PnP OS in cmos/bios setup. That keeps windows from changing the bios settings.
With the joystick not working in dos I'd think either the port isn't enabled in dos or the joystick isn't compatible with dos.
Did you install the drivers/files necessary for DOS playback?

To run in pure dos you need to run a file or files--probably from autoexec.bat--to get it going. These are two different
downloads which look like they set up the card for DOS.


http://www.soundcard-drivers.com/dr...
http://vsynchmame.mameworld.net/als...


You should check the documentation for your joystick to see if it contains DOS setup. I'm not sure if the above downloads do that.


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    Swilin Sampson May 07, 2008

    Also try using the joystick in Analogue mode.

  • Swilin Sampson
    Swilin Sampson May 07, 2008

    sure thing..

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Have you try to configure it first on the control settings of the dos games before you start playing it..??

Thank you & pls post back..

Posted on May 07, 2008

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    Elizabeth Krijt May 07, 2008

    sometimes you have to setup it again on the game even you already configure and set it on the windows..

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    Elizabeth Krijt May 07, 2008

    For MS Sidewinder Precision Pro joystick, try turning off 'use rudder for
    pilots head' on the launcher controls tab, or try downloading and installing
    Shrekken's setup file:
    http://mysite.freeserve.com/shrekkens_ha...
    zip . Poorly calibrated joysticks can also result in jittering. You cannot set
    the deadzone within the game. There may not be a solution other than to try a
    different controller.

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