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How do i connect a behringer 3000 mixer to a pair of bose 802 II speakers, without the bose eq instead using a behringer eq.

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I' ve just sold 2 pairs of 800's. The buyer(who once owned a music business) used an 802 controller to test them. He said that any bose eq would do the job with no problems.

Posted on Jan 29, 2008

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Similar problem...I came up with a solution with help from Onyko. For my receiver, at least, the bottom line was that the output from the equalizer MUST go to 'Receiver, Tape In'! Since that is the ONLY input source from the equalizer, you must combine elsewhere. Part of my setup included the Radio Shack Audio/Video Selector box which costs $21.99...you might not need it, but in my case, I couldn't plug all components into the back of the receiver and have them go through the equalizer.

Since I have a satellite receiver, DVD player and TV, that I want to route through the equalizer, here is the way mine is set up and working:

Satellite receiver and DVD player out to Radio Shack audio/video selector

Audio/video selector out to VCR in.

VCR video directly to TV

VCR audio red/white (audio) out to equalizer

Equalizer out to Receiver Tape IN (Receiver Out not used)

Hope this (or a variation of it) helps.

Posted on Dec 21, 2008

dunnbiker
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No. Active Equalization is required for the 901's and not to be used with any non-901 speakers.

Posted on Apr 13, 2009

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There's good news and bad news. The bad news is that a multichannel receiver with Bose 901's will only sound right in STEREO on stereo analog material. For one thing, the other speakers around the room are not designed to recieve its Active Equalization and for another, if you engage your Tape Monitor you will not be able to play digital sources. Tape Monitor is for analog stereo material only and on my receiver it disables any digital inputs.

The good news. I have a setup similar to what I think you're trying to do and it works great!

A separate stereo amp for the 901's was my solution. I run a Carver AV-406 (5-channel amp) for my 901's in Front, 2 Subwoofers and the Rear Surround channel, with the Active EQ between the receiver Front L&R Outputs and the 901's amp channels. My receiver controls everything and just drives the Center and Surround speakers. You could get by with just a stereo amp for the 901's. A Carver M-200 is a good efficient amplifier that would have you cooking just fine (2x100W).

Run the dbx and BSR in tandem with each through the tape monitor loop on the receiver but be advised you can only use them on analog source stero material. However, you can still employ the various DSP options to spread the sound around the room.

At my PC workstation across the room I have a stack of analog processors and sources including dbx 3bx-ds, dbx 120x-ds, BSR Spatial Enhancer, BBE 462 Sonic Maximizer, SS-525x EQ, Carver C-9, dbx-224x, JVC cassette deck, Dual 1249 Turntable running through a Garrard MRM-101 Preamp, Pioneer PDR-509 CD Recorder and the Media Center PC stereo analog channels all running through a dbx 400x Program Route Selector (a godsend) which is attached to my ONE TAPE MONITOR on my Pioneer VSX-36TX Receiver. Of course, I have some of my analog processors running in tandem, too, since the 224x only has three processor and three tape loops.

For listening/recording anything 2-channel analog I engage the stack through the Tape Monitor. For everything else I turn the Tape Monitor off. The nice thing about the stack being separate is that I can doodle with recording and use headphones while the TV/DVD/Blu-Ray do something else.

Posted on Apr 24, 2009

dunnbiker
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I wrote most of this for a different receiver, but if you account for minor differences to your receiver this will work just fine.

There's good news and bad news. The bad news you need a separate amp because a multichannel receiver with Bose 901's attached as recommended for a standard stereo receiver will only sound right in STEREO on stereo analog material. The other speakers around the room are not designed to receive its Active Equalization and if you engage your Tape Monitor you will NOT BE ABLE TO HEAR DIGITAL sources at all. Tape Monitor is for analog stereo material only and on modern AV receivers it disables any digital inputs so you really can't use the Tape Monitor circuit or attached devices for modern digital sources. However, you can still employ the various DSP options to spread 2-channel analog source material around the room. I do.

The good news. I have a setup similar to what you want to do and it works great!

A separate stereo amp for the 901's was my solution. I run a Carver AV-406 (5-channel amp) for my 901's in Front, 2 Subwoofers and the Rear Surround channel, with the Active EQ between the receiver Front L&R Outputs and the 901's amp channels. My receiver controls everything and just drives the Center and Surround speakers.

You could get by with just a stereo amp for the 901's. A Carver M-200 is a good efficient amplifier that would have you cooking just fine (2x100W). Run it with the Active EQ between the receiver Front L&R Pre-Outputs ** and the 901's amp channels.

** Front Pre Out (or one of your analog Tape Outs) >>> Bose EQ Amplifer IN, then
Bose EQ Amplier OUT >>> new amplifier IN.


Attach the 901's to the new amp, set its volume to Max and run through your receiver's speaker level setup.

Write off the Tape Out as an input if you use it to extract the Front L&R channels. DO NOT monitor it or you'll chop the 901's out of the signal path AND kill any digital source audio in the receiver.

Posted on Apr 25, 2009

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