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ZyXel P660HW-T1 ... Problem bridging 2 wirless adsl routers

Hi,

I am trying to wirelessly bridge two ADSL wireless routers. They are of different brands but my hope is that it is possible to bridge them. So I need some help from a McGuyver! ;)

Before posting that, I read a pdf from Belkin "A guide to wireless bridging (wds).pdf" but didn't get very far.

Here's my setup at the moment:

1) ZyXel P660HW-T1 (Firmware: 3.40 (ACI.6) 4/27/2006)
- Currently set to 'Routing mode' and is connected to my ADSL provider
- I tested it, the SSID and WEP key works fine, Internet too.
- So this router is my base.

2) Micronet SP3357 (Firmware: CX82xxx_4.10.29_MW2)
...that's a Conexant firmware
- Ok this router needs to be configured
- I set it to 'Bridge Mode' and was set to the same channel and wep key info as in the ZyXel. I set a different SSID though.

Am really lost. I've uploaded some pictures from the two routers on Live-spaces, so you can browse and refer to them when thinking of an answer.

Thanks for any suggestions.
Natasha26

PS. Link to each router's config menu: http://cid-d3e08fba5f188044.spaces.live.com/photos/cns!D3E08FBA5F188044!138/


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  • Natasha
    Natasha May 06, 2008

    Hi HAAi and XRAYON, sorry about this late reply, I haven't been able to log into FixYa for 2 days! Password problem...



    Anyway. HAAi, I tried your solution, i.e. to use a wired bridge instead and it worked! I changed the IP address on the micronet, turned off DHCP, actually it's simpler if you look at the snapshots I've uploaded on my live-spaces. If you see a config mistake, let me know.



    Am so happy it's working now. Thanks :) :)



    PS. If by looking at my snapshots (spread on my 2 albums), you'd know how to do a wireless bridging let me know.

  • Natasha
    Natasha May 09, 2008

    Hey HAAi, i'm sorry if i didn't clarify what i meant. I wanted to wirelessly bridge the 2 wifi routers (i.e. no wires in between). But the wired solution works too.



    I started that post because I noted that both my wifi routers have a "Bridge" Mode in their connection's menu (the one where u put the PPPoA, VCI/VPI.... stuff), so it made me wonder whether I could do something to wirelessly bridge them. Ok, they aren't from the same manufacturers but maybe there're settings that u can recommend and i'll test them here.



    thanks.

  • Ronald Tisdale
    Ronald Tisdale May 11, 2010

    Just an addition to what "HAAi" posted



    I haven't seen that exact set-up you have but don't forget those routers could be incompatible together. Also not all service providers offer bridging capabilties on their DSL service. Find out exactly what service you have because you might be fighting an uphill battle.



    I'd start over... remove all the security and keys... default the SSID and broadcast it and see if you can get it to connect before you start enabling security.

  • HAAi
    HAAi May 11, 2010

    Hi there!



    I'll try and help you out and I need to ask you these info:



    1. What's the IP address of the Zyxel?

    2. What's the IP address of the Micronet?

    3. If they have the same IP address then you will need to changed the IP address of the Micronet to a different segment (ex. Zyxel's IP addr: 192.168.1.1; Micronet's IP address: 192.168.x.1 (x = any number from 2 and above).

    4. Disable DHCP of the Micronet.

    5. Connect one ethernet port from the Zyxel to one ETHERENET port of the Micronet (Ethernet-to-Ethernet connection)

    6. 1 minute powercycle (turn off Micronet then Zyxel; power on Zyxel then Micronet)



    Hope this helps!

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What do you mean by "wireless bridging"? Does it mean wirelessly connecting both routers? (ex. Zyxel is at location A and Micronet ais at Location B and you'll wirelessly connect them). If this is what you mean, then it might not be possible since those are two different brands and possibility is that they will not work with each other when they're wirelessly connected unless one or both routers have the capability to do so.

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    HAAi May 09, 2008

    Hi!



    If I'm not mistaken, "Bridge" mode at the Connection menu that you're
    pertaining to with your routers are for its internet configuration. It
    will make the Gateway act like a standalone modem and all NAT
    routing is disabled in this mode.



    If you want to wirelessly bridge devices with either your Micronet or
    Zyxel, what I can suggest is to check both manufacturer's site and
    check if they have wireless access points that has the capability to
    wirelessly bridge the connection from either gateways/ routers. It's
    oftenly referred to as WDS or Wireless Distribution System.



    I've checked Micronet's site for their access points and they all have
    WDS but I'm not sure if your SP3357 is compatible with them. My best
    advise it to consult Micronet about it to check they're compatibility
    with your Micronet device.



    Here are thir models:



    Model No. SP918GK

    Wireless LAN Access Point

    * Compliant with IEEE 802.11 , 802.11b and 802.11g standards

    * Auto rate fallback in case of obstacles or interferences

    * Provide Infrastructure, Station Adapter, Bridge, Repeater and WDS operation modes

    * Support 64(40)/128 bit WEP, WPA(Wi-Fi Protected Access), 802.1x and MAC Access Control for security



    Model No. SP918GL

    Wireless LAN Access Point

    * Compliant with IEEE 802.11 , 802.11b and 802.11g standards

    * Support operation mode Infrastructure, Station Adapter and WDS (Wireless Distribution System) Function

    * Support auto data rate selection at 108, 54, 48, 36, 24, 18, 12, 9 and 6M

    * Support 64/128/152 bit WEP, WPA (Wi-Fi Protected Access) and Access Control List for security



    Model No. SP9125

    Wireless LAN Access Point

    * Compliant with IEEE802.11b/g standards

    * Provide 5 x RJ-45 LAN port of 10/100M

    * Support WDS (Wireless Distribution System) repeater mode and roaming link integrity

    * Support 64/128/152 bit WEP, WPA-PSK and Access Control List for network security



    Hope this helps!

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FYI: As mentioned above, bridge mode has nothing to do with what you want to do. The zyxel router has the ability to do this - look in the WDS menu. This is NOT mentioned in the manual I was able to find online (I did not get a manual with my 660-HW).
I don't know if the other device you mentioned supports WDS.

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Thank you! I've had these 2 old skewl Belkin F5D7130/-4 router and AP extender that worked fairly well together, but could never seem to get them to work in bridge mode with any other routers... changing the /24 octet worked quite well between my wireless belkin bridge and a zyxel (NBG4615) router and I was really surprised to see my ping startup after fixing the IP. Always forget this is bridged mode and can't have the same network.

AP Settings:
* General
+ Network Name (SSID1)
- Added unique/different SSID that was previously setup in extender (may not be available on all routers)
- Checked: 'Hide'
- Unchecked: (default) 'Enable Intra-BSS Traffic'
+ Channel Selection
- Noted to enter in extender
- Unchecked: 'Auto Channel Selection' previously (not related: unchecked this when I installed the router and noticed Android was dropping wireless connection
randomly).
+ Communication between wireless clients with different SSIDs
- Checked
* MAC Filter Tab
+ Added Extender MAC to MAC Filter
* WDS Tab
+ Basic Setting
- AP+Bridge (albeit Bridge worked as well)
+ Remote MAC Address
- Entered extender WLAN MAC Address
+ Security
- WEP (Belkin had a bug that only allowed WEP, even tho there are options for TKIP and AES w/ WPA-PSK, testing this failed with same settings)

Extender/Bridge Settings:
* Channel and SSID
+ Wireless Channel
- Set to same as Zyxel
+ Wireless Mode
- 54G-Auto
+ Broadcast SSID
- Uncheck
+ Turbo Mode
- On
+ Protected Mode
- Off
* Security
+ Security Mode
- 128bit WEP (Belkin limitation, WEP only)
+ Autogenerated MAC 13 digit hex pairs
* Specify IP Address
+ Updated to 192.168.2.1
* MAC Address Control
+ Disabled
+ Added Zyxel WLAN MAC Address to list just in case
* Wireless Bridge
+ checked: Enable Wireless Bridging
+ Checked: Enable ONLY specific Access Points to Connect
- AP1: Zyxel WLAN MAC Address
+ Checked: Disable ability for Wireless CLIENTS to connect
- Only allows APs to connect
- Uncheck if you're doing wireless bridging for wireless clients (not tested)

Client Settings:
* Changed static IP
+ IP
- 192.168.2.2
+ mask
- 255.255.255.0
+ Gateway
- 192.168.1.1 (windows complained, safe to ignore...ping will throw a couple of network errors when network changes occur)
+ Saved changes on extender (connected directly)
* From Command prompt: ping 192.168.1.1 -t
+ Output was either (depending on when the client is setup):
- Reply from 10.1.1.7: Destination host unreachable.
- Request Timed Out.
* Changed static IP
+ IP
- 192.168.1.2
* Ping Output
+ Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time= 1ms TTL=64
...

I think this is how I once hacked a basement linux box to be a wireless bridge from an AP upstairs, but that was a long time ago (before there were any real linux WLAN drivers). Anyway, much appreciated.

Posted on Jan 07, 2012

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