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Our tankless water heater is about 3 yrs old and when you take a shower the water is so hot it will burn you and when you try to cut more cold on it turns all the way cold we have it turned down as low as it will go.. I hate this water heater.. we have tried different things to fix this problem like cuttint the temp up down cuttin the hot water all the way on in the shower and turning cold water on a little at the time then it turns all the way cold then you have to cut it off and wait until it resets and start over while you are standing there with soap everywhere on ur body..any ideas are welcomed to fix this pain in my **** problem

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Almost all tankless water heaters have this problem. I would install a small "buffer" tank. for example a small 5 or 10 gallon electric water heater will "mix" the water so that it doesn't come out of your shower cold, or scalding hot.
the instructions that came with your water heater should have a diagram of how to do this. if not let me know, I can send a copy.
the electric water heater acts as a mixing station.
the problem with most tankless heaters is that the water coming in is cold, average 60* and the water coming out is average 120*. sometimes the flame in the unit can't keep up when using large amounts of water, and you will get cold spots. when this happens, the heater will sense this, and then tells the flame it needs more BTU's, so then you will get extremely hot water.
the buffer tank will fix this by mixing the water before it gets to your shower and will give you an even water temperature.

let me know if this helps

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