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Hi, my suburban NT-16SE furnace blower runs but the burner doesn't fire. How can I check to see if it is the igniter or igniter board or the gas valve that has failed. The sail swith is working and I have propane.

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The ignitor will glow but not if it is cracked check this first, second try jumping out the pressure switch see it it light then

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1 FLASH
Furnace fails to operate.
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diagnostic LED is
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