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While cutting I heard a high pitch noise, I stopped moving but the noise continued, so I knew it had to do with the deck which was still operating. I turned the deck off. If I remember correctly there was a thud sound and the tractor engine stopped. I started the engine and noticed the blades would not work. Upon inspection three electrical wires were found to be torn off of something and were wrapped around the shaft of the principal mower belt drive. I do not have a manual and would like to repair this myself as money is very tight. What do you suggest, can I repair this myself, what is the name of the problem and what is the cost for parts or repairs? Thank you for being here, Sally

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  • SALLY Aug 21, 2010

    Hello,

    It is a John Deere L130 automatic, with 48" deck.

  • SALLY Aug 21, 2010

    I have some things that need to be done so will check back in a few hours, to see if you are able to help me. See you later.

    S

  • SALLY Aug 21, 2010

    Hi,
    I do not know if I am doing something wrong but I have not heard back from you for over nine hours since you asked me the make and model. Are you able to help me or will I try to find someone else?

  • SALLY Aug 21, 2010

    Thank you for making contact, I have not been able to hear back from the other person who replied to my problem. My lawn tractor is a John Deere L130 automatic, with 48" deck.

    When I looked underneath I found three electrical wires wrapped around the shaft of the drive fly wheel, they were badly chewed up, but they were still connected to the top of that fly wheel.

    I was not able to figure out where they had been attached for sure. There is a possibility of one place that looks like a piece of metal could have been broken off next to some other wires that are right next to the place that looks as though it could have been snapped off. I do know that the broken wires have something to do with mowing safety because the engine does not stop if I do not put weight on the seat.

    I am going to go up and look on the web site that you sent. Thank you, I will get back to you.
    Sally

  • SALLY Aug 22, 2010

    They did not have any manuals for L130 at the site you sent so I am trying to look at a parts list for L130 to if I can find a part that resembles my problem one.

  • SALLY Aug 22, 2010

    Hello,

    It is a JD L130 automatic with a 48" mower.
    The three wires are part of my electrical system as they are still connected to what I now believe is the clutch from my trying to learn from the JD parts pages. It is to figure out where they came from, where to buy new ones and how to reconnect new wires to where the present ones connect to clutch if that is the name of that wheel at the front that drives the mower belt.

    I believe that these wires are part of the safety pressure switch under the seat, that shuts off the tractor when weight is removed from the seat.

    I have added other prior comment below.
    Sally


    I would need the make and the model number of this lawn mower. It should be on the rear section as most tractors are

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    1.
    o tcr1448
    o 8 hours ago
    Hello,

    It is a John Deere L130 automatic, with 48" deck.
    1.
    o tcr1448
    o 8 hours ago
    I have some things that need to be done so will check back in a few hours, to see if you are able to help me. See you later.

    S
    • tcr1448
    • 13 hours ago
    Hi,
    I do not know if I am doing something wrong but I have not heard back from you for over nine hours since you asked me the make and model. Are you able to help me or will I try to find someone else?

    tbreeze47

    Not knowing what kind of mover you have gives me limited ability to help you solve this, but there is a website where you can download free manuals, and here it is:http://lawnandgarden.manualsonline.com/m...
    try to take the wires off and see if you can figure how they were routed, and if they can match up to anything with broken solder joints or connectors. I'm wondering if they came from your mower or if you just picked them up out of the yard, maybe. Possibly taking them off will get it going again.
    If you add a statement to this question, I will be able to see what kind of mower you have and see if I can check it out more, in order to help. I'll be looking out for your post...

    1.
    o tcr1448
    o 12 hours ago
    Thank you for making contact, I have not been able to hear back from the other person who replied to my problem. My lawn tractor is a John Deere L130 automatic, with 48" deck. When I looked underneath I found three electrical wires wrapped around the shaft of the drive fly wheel, they were badly chewed up, but they were still connected to the top of that fly wheel. I was not able to figure out where they had been attached for sure. There is a possibility of one place that looks like a piece of metal could have been broken off next to some other wires that are right next to the place that looks as though it could have been snapped off. I do know that the broken wires have something to do with mowing safety because the engine does not stop if I do not put weight on the seat. I am going to go up and look on the web site that you sent. Thank you, I will get back to you. Sally
    1.
    o tcr1448
    o 11 hours ago
    They did not have any manuals for L130 at the site you sent so I am trying to look at a parts list for L130 to see if I can find a part that resembles my problem one.

  • SALLY Aug 22, 2010

    Hello,

    After the initial question that the past two men asked, I never heard
    back from either of them regarding the additional info they requested.
    So if you could help me I would appreciate it.... The lawn mower is a JD
    130 Automatic with a 48" mower deck.......After finding a JD parts list
    on line, as I could not find any manuals for this model, I think the
    wires were from the mower belt clutch. They remain connected to the
    clutch with enough to splice if possible, so I would not have to buy a
    new clutch. I do not know where they were attached to, but they are
    part of the sensory system for the blade disengage and loss of weight
    off the seat to cut all power when the blades are on..... Sears manuals
    and part figures are so well drawn that you can work from the drawings
    but JD's pictures are very vague and separate from each other not giving
    a clear picture of what is connect to what... hopefully you can tell me
    how and what to do for this problem or else I might just have to go to
    the repair shop..... do you know why this could have happened, or if I
    repair the wires could it happen again or do you think that the clutch
    is shot?.....Thank you..... Sally

  • SALLY Aug 23, 2010

    Hello Joe,

    I am sorry for not getting back to you sooner as I just found your second reply. I had always checked my comment list so never saw your new comment. No one had replied a second time so I did not know your comment would be added to your original comment......

    The parts page is at....

    http://jdpc.deere.com/jdpc/servlet/com.d...

    The height lever does not have a sensor to shut off the blades. There is a (1)seat sensor, (2)a reverse sensor which shuts off the tractor engine if you reverse without pushing a small button to keep the engine going if you are in the cutting mode, and (3) the on/off button on the dash.

    You were right about three sensors, I forgot about the reverse one until now and you confirmed my beliefe that JD was trying to stop us from caring for our own equipment. Greedy little Deeres!

    Today I will take off the the mower deck and take more time to study the situation, then call the dealer and try to get as much info from them. So between you and I, we just might be able to solve the problem.

    To be honest with you I do not have much tec knowledge, my specialty was working with troubled youth and psychiatry. The lack of money is a great motivator for innovations. I am nearly 65 and on a fixed income with determination to find the information so as attempt resolving my own problems. The computer and library are usually my sources of info. This is the first time I have turned to help like Fixya. Until you got back to me I was starting to get worried about the web site. Thank you for making contact.

    I will look back every once in a while to check for your next reply. I do not know your time zone... I am in the province of Ontario.

    Sally

    PS. You have great taste in cars. I almost bought a Vet once and gave it up to buy a house!!!!!

  • SALLY Aug 23, 2010

    Hi,

    I just finished making copies of all JD's parts pages relating to the areas involving our problem. I found another more in depth level within the page I sent you, which I believe will help me understand better where some things connect to each other. Unfortunately. I must go and get the chores done and then I am looking after my grandchildren for a few hours until the parent get back from work. I will look for you around nine pm if not sooner.

  • SALLY Aug 24, 2010

    Hello,

    I sent you the the URL for the parts page and I was wondering if you received it. I see the copy of it under my name but it is not in your comments section. I just wonder if I did something wrong.

    I shall check in again in the morning. Hope you had a good day.

    Sally

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I can try my best to guide you Sally, but will need the mower's manufacture name, and Model Number. It's probably a safety switch for engaging the blades. This is all I can post so far.

Posted on Aug 22, 2010

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    joecoolvette Aug 22, 2010

    If the reference is to me Sally, I just posted about this problem approximately 1 hour ago. Time is 2:51PM. Date: Sunday, August 22nd.

    I bow out to the other expert, and will find out how this extreme time lapse has transposed.

  • SALLY Aug 22, 2010

    Hello,

    After the initial question that the past two men asked, I never heard back from either of them regarding the additional info they requested. So if you could help me I would appreciate it.... The lawn mower is a JD 130 Automatic with a 48" mower deck.......After finding a JD parts list on line, as I could not find any manuals for this model, I think the wires were from the mower belt clutch. They remain connected to the clutch with enough to splice if possible, so I would not have to buy a new clutch. I do not know where they were attached to, but they are part of the sensory system for the blade disengage and loss of weight off the seat to cut all power when the blades are on..... Sears manuals and part figures are so well drawn that you can work from the drawings but JD's pictures are very vague and separate from each other not giving a clear picture of what is connect to what... hopefully you can tell me how and what to do for this problem or else I might just have to go to the repair shop..... do you know why this could have happened, or if I repair the wires could it happen again or do you think that the clutch is shot?.....Thank you..... Sally

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    joecoolvette Aug 23, 2010

    Apologizes Sally, I thought you were in capable hands.

    As I cannot seem to pull up the parts manual you have access to, can you paste the URL for me here in a Comment?

    The safety switch will be in a series of safety switches, is how most models are wired.
    One side of the safety switch usually goes to the deck height handle's safety switch, as when the deck is pulled all the way up,
    the blades disengage. (Via the deck height handle. Shuts off the electric clutch for the blades)
    In simpler terms, one of the wires from the blade clutch to the safety switch.

    The other side of the safety switch will be connected to ground. The mower frame itself.
    This will probably be the middle wire, of the three wires coming out of the clutch.

    The last wire will go to the safety switch under the seat.

    No wiring diagram available to me, to guide you in this endeavor.
    This is the way John Deere wants it.


    They want their mowers worked on only by an authorized dealer. (Ka-ching)
    Consequently only authorized dealers have this info.

    Me?
    I'd go up to the nearest John Deere dealer that handles residential mowers, (Or maybe all of their equipment),
    and ask how much is a printout of the wiring diagram for the JD L130.

    Even with the wiring diagram it's not going to be a cake walk. However, if I may, due to your postings, and
    the wording used, i have faith in your technical sav vy.

    You'll have to remove various parts to access where the wires go. Familiarize yourself with the parts in question.
    Then logically back trace where the wires go to the parts. As already stated, there should be evidence of where
    the wires went, (Broken solder connections. Metal terminal eyelets that are still attached, and look as though a wire has been
    pulled off. A sort of 'fingerprint', if you will, as to where the wires attached to)

    Apologize again for the way your problem has been handled.
    Hopefully we can sort through this, and find an amicable solution.
    Regards,
    joecoolvette






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    joecoolvette Aug 24, 2010

    Sally, am busy with life's tasks at hand, at present. Please do not give up on me, will post back very soon.

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Hi Sally. It is rather difficult to say whether the wires around the blade is comnc from the tractor itself. I suggest to start with looking at the fan belts driving the blades. Check for any wear or a belt that has twisted on the pulleys. If you send me the model name and number I can find you a manual. Hope this helps

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Not knowing what kind of mover you have gives me limited ability to help you solve this, but there is a website where you can download free manuals, and here it is:
http://lawnandgarden.manualsonline.com/manuals/device/lawn_mower.html
try to take the wires off and see if you can figure how they were routed, and if they can match up to anything with broken solder joints or connectors. I'm wondering if they came from your mower or if you just picked them up out of the yard, maybe. Possibly taking them off will get it going again.
If you add a statement to this question, I will be able to see what kind of mower you have and see if I can check it out more, in order to help. I'll be looking out for your post...

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I would need the make and the model number of this lawn mower. It should be on the rear section as most tractors are

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