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I have a ttr250 raid. Just purchased for field use, starter gear worn and removed needs replacing.and no battery any how i thought it would be easy enough to bump start however it takes a tow at 20mph to start.even when warm cuts out same again need tow. Should it bump start easily new plug maybe ?

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Try it with a new battery, It may need the carby cleaned.

running by tow starting can cause electrical problem to the charge circuit as the charge it produces can build up in other components if there is no battery

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Fig. Exploded view of the starter motor mounting - 5S-FE engine shown, others similar (click image for zoom)

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  2. Also on some models with cruise control, remove the actuator cover and disconnect the wiring harness. Remove the three bolts and then lift out the cruise control actuator. Remove the bracket from beneath the actuator and put aside.
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  2. Disconnect the wire lead from the magnetic switch terminal.
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    2. On 1.4 kW units, remove the two screws and the starter housing with the pinion gear, idler and clutch assembly.
To install:
  1. If necessary, install the gears and clutch assembly to the starter housing. Apply grease to the gear and clutch assemblies and:
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    2. On 1.4 kW starters, place the clutch assembly, idler gear, bearing and pinion gear in the starter housing.

  2. Insert the spring into the clutch shaft hole and place the starter housing onto the magnetic switch. Install the two screws.
  3. On 1.0 kW units, install the felt seal on the armature shaft. On 1.4 kW units, install the O-ring on the field frame.
  4. Install the field frame with the armature onto the magnetic switch assembly and install the two through bolts.
NOTE There is a protrusion or tab on each part; make sure you line them up correctly.
  1. Connect the wire to the terminal on the magnetic switch. Install the heat insulator, if equipped.
  2. Reinstall the starter on the vehicle. Check starter system for proper operation.
Hope this helps (remember to rating and leave a testimonial comment about this answer).
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Starter Toyota Previa 1991-1997 Repair InformationREMOVAL & INSTALLATION
See Figures 5 through 12
  1. Disconnect the negative battery cable from the battery.
  2. Raise and safely support the vehicle.
  3. If equipped with 4WD, remove the front driveshaft.
  4. Remove the nut and disconnect the starter wire.
0900c15280089fbb.jpgFig. 5: Disengage the starter wiring
  1. Disconnect the starter connector.
0900c15280089fbc.jpgFig. 6: Remove the cap hiding the nut 0900c15280089fbd.jpgFig. 7: It will be necessary to use an extension to remove the nut
  1. Remove the bolt holding the starter stay to the upper stiffener plate.
  2. If equipped with 2WD, remove the starter by removing the nut and three bolts.
  3. If equipped with 4WD, remove the starter by removing the nut, four bolts, and the center bracket.
0900c15280089fbe.jpgFig. 8: Four bolts hold the starter in place 0900c15280089fbf.jpgFig. 9: The nut is located on the top of the starter 0900c15280089fc0.jpgFig. 10: Extract the starter from the engineTo install:
  1. If equipped with 4WD, install the starter, the center support bracket, nut, and the four bolts. Tighten the bolts as follows:
    • Bolt A to 41 ft. lbs. (56 Nm)
    • Bolt B to 30 ft. lbs. (41 Nm)
0900c15280089fc1.jpgFig. 11: Bolt locations on the 2WD models
  1. If equipped with 2WD, install the starter, nut and three bolts. Tighten the bolts as follows:
    • Bolt A to 41 ft. lbs. (56 Nm)
    • Bolt B to 30 ft. lbs. (41 Nm)
0900c15280089fc2.jpgFig. 12: Bolt locations on the 4WD models
  1. Install the bolt to hold the starter stay to the upper stiffener plate. Tighten the bolt to 43 inch lbs. (5 Nm).
  2. Install the starter connector.
  3. Connect the starter wire with the nut. Tighten the nut to 78 inch lbs. (9 Nm).
  4. If equipped with 4WD, install the front driveshaft.
  5. Connect the negative battery cable.
SOLENOID REPLACEMENT
The starter solenoid (magnetic switch) is an integral part of the starter assembly.
  1. Remove the starter from the van. Remove the heat insulator from the starter assembly, if equipped.
  2. Disconnect the wire lead from the magnetic switch terminal.
  3. Remove the two long, through bolts holding the field frame to the magnetic switch. Pull out the field frame with the armature from the magnetic switch.
  4. Toseparate the starter housing from the magnetic switch assembly, remove the two screws and the starter housing with the pinion gear (1.6 kW), idler and clutch assembly.
To install:
  1. If necessary, install the gears and clutch assembly to the starter housing. Apply grease to the gear and clutch assemblies and place the clutch assembly, idler gear, bearing and pinion gear (1.6 kW) in the starter housing.
  2. Insert the spring into the clutch shaft hole and place the starter housing onto the magnetic switch. Install the two screws.
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