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Rio Vapore Problem: Steam Leak

The Rio has a steam leak. It will emit steam and water from the valve even when the push button is in the off position.

Which parts should I replace to fix the problem? Which company is the best source for parts?

Mike
Costa Mesa

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  • swstates Mar 19, 2009

    My Starbucks (Rio Vapore) keeps dripping water after the coffee button is pushed to shut it off. Any thoughts, anyone?

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Hi Mike,

There are a couple of gasket you need to replace in the steam valve, if the steam pin is worn, then you have to replace that to.

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