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Using a Sata Drive with an IDE cable

I have an older HP system that needs a new hard drive. Even when I format the old done, it won't load. can I put in a SATA drive when the old one was a an IDE? Or do I need a different cable?

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Hi , your old hard disk is a IDE drive and you are also using a sata . Both of the cables are different. if you are using the windows operating system , start menu , run and type chkdsk it show the bad sector on your hard disk . if your hard drive have more bad sector on the disk it won't load any on the specific part of the drive .if there is no bad sectors then change the cable of IDE power cable and bus cable . if the problem presist please inform again.

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Depending on how old your system is, even though your current drive is IDE, there might still be SATA support on the motherboard. Look in your manual and find out if it has any SATA connectors. If not, you need to continue using IDE unless you want to purchase a PCI card with SATA connectors on it.

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My hard drive died in my HP pavilion 9795c. I replaced the hard drive, inserted the recovery cd and it says error loading operating system. I used a full version of xp pro with the same result. In setup...


I would suggest you pull the new hard drive out to make sure you've got the jumpers set correctly. Match them up with what you had on the old drive. Master / Slave / CS (cable select)

Once that's corrected you should be able to boot into the recovery cd so long as you set the boot options up correction in the bios.

Let me know if you get stuck.

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How to connect your hard drive to your motherboard

The first thing you have to figure out is what type of hard drive you have, a PATA or a SATA drive.

PATA = Parallel ATA
This type of drive uses the older IDE connections. Most of your current motherboards still have aleast one IDE connection to support the ROM drives on the market that have not moved over to SATA connections but you can still connect a hard drive to this connection if needed. The thing to keep in mind is that you can only connect 2 IDE devices to one IDE connection on the motherboard.

Here is an example of an IDE cable. If you can see there are tabs on the cable to make sure you line up the pins properly.

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SATA = Serial Advanced Technology Attachment
This type is now the standard that most hard drives are. Also note that alot of your ROM drives are switching over to this format as well.

Here is an example of a SATA cable.

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In regards to power connectors If you are using a PATA drive then you will use the Molex power connector. Note some of the early SATA drives use this power connector as well.

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For the SATA drives you would use the SATA power connector. Note if your power supply does not have this connection you can get an adapter that goes from a Molex connection to the SATA connector.


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Next you will need to find the connectors for the hard drive on your motherboard. Below if pictures of the 2 connection types.

IDE/PATA motherboard connectors

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SATA motherboard connectors

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How to replace a hard disk drive.


Step 1: Back up and scout around
First, back up your critical files (don't forget your Outlook .PST archive) to optical discs, an external drive, or online storage. Then check whether a CD comes with the drive, providing drive-specific information and general upgrade assistance. It may also later help you copy the contents of one drive to another. Install this software first. Then, power down your PC, unplug all cables, and open the case. Next, ground yourself by touching a metal portion of the chassis.
Look inside—your first task is to determine where your new drive will go. Bays for internal drives are usually located below the wider, front-accessible bays that house CD or DVD drives. If you plan to replace your boot drive with the new drive and don't have an empty bay, your upgrade will involve more steps than we can cover here. But if you're replacing your boot drive and you have an empty bay, follow our steps for adding a second drive. After formatting it, use Norton Ghost (or a similar program) to clone your boot drive's contents to the new drive. Then, revisit steps 3 and 4 to direct your PC to boot from the new drive.
We'll be installing a SATA drive, but the process is similar for the other common drive type, IDE. SATA drives use a thin, seven-pin data cable; IDE drives use a 40-pin ribbon cable that's usually gray. If you're unsure which drive type your PC already has, check its documentation or label. Most PCs more than a year or two old employ IDE hard and optical drives, and don't support SATA unless they have a SATA PCI card installed. More-recent desktops may use (or just support) SATA drives but should support IDE, too.
Tip: If you transfer Windows XP from one drive to another, you may have to reauthorize Windows. Step 2: Examine data and power connections
Most hard drive kits include a data cable (SATA or IDE, depending on the drive), a power adapter cable (with some SATA drives), and screws. If yours doesn't include cables, you can purchase them separately.
First, the data connection. If you're installing a SATA drive as secondary storage, follow the data cable from your current drive (assuming it's SATA, too) to the other end. See if an unused SATA port lies nearby on the motherboard or an interface card. If you can't find one, consult your PC's documentation.
If you're adding an IDE drive as a second drive, you may be able to connect it to the same data cable as your primary IDE drive, or along with an IDE optical drive. Look for a third, free connector in the middle of the cable that connects your currently installed IDE drive to the motherboard. Note that some older PCs use 40-conductor IDE cables, not the 80-conductor ones current drives require. (Compare your kit cable to the one installed—the 80-conductor variety has much thinner wires.) 80-conductor cables are backward-compatible (both types use the same 40-pin connector), so you can swap out a 40-conductor cable for your kit's 80 if need be. (The "master" drive goes at the end—see step 3.)
Next, consider the power connection. Our SATA drive has a 15-pin SATA power connector. If you already have a SATA drive installed, follow its power cable (the wider of the two connectors) to see if an unused power-supply lead with the same connector is nearby. If so, earmark that lead for your new drive. If it can't reach the empty bay, see if any bundled adapters help.
Some SATA drives also support familiar legacy Molex four-pin power connectors—you can use a Molex or SATA connector. If so, hunt for a free Molex-style lead. Still no match? Then you'll need an adapter, such as a Molex-to-SATA adapter (some kits bundle one), or a Y-adapter that splits a lead in two.
IDE drives are simpler: They always use Molex connectors. You just need a free Molex-style lead (or a Y-splitter). Step 3: Mount and connect the drive
When installing SATA drives, jumper settings usually aren't an issue. That's not true of IDE, where a jumper indicates whether a drive is a primary ("master") or secondary ("slave") drive. Check its documentation for the proper setting. If your PC has only one IDE hard drive, it's probably set to "master." Assuming you chain another IDE drive off its cable, the new drive should be set to "slave." (You'll later have to change the jumper to "master"—and attach the drive to the cable's end—if you remove the original boot drive and make the new drive the boot drive.) Another option: Set both IDE drives on an 80-conductor cable to the Cable Select (CSEL) jumper setting. The PC will determine master/slave status according to the drives' placement on the cable ("master" at the end, "slave" in the middle).
Next, look at your current hard drive to see if mounting rails are attached to its sides. If so, screw a set onto the new drive (look inside the case for spares), then slide the drive into its bay. Otherwise, screw it directly into the bay. Four screws are sufficient. Usually, the label side points up; mimic the boot drive.
Attach one end of the SATA data cable (which is keyed for correct insertion) to a SATA port on the motherboard or interface card, the other to the drive. IDE data cables, also keyed, usually have a red stripe that lines up with the "pin 1" marking on the drive.
Next, plug the power-supply lead (keyed, too) that you scouted out in step 2 into the drive, including any necessary extender or adapter. Then close the case. Step 4: Configure the BIOS
Next, boot into your PC's BIOS-setup utility to verify that it recognizes the new drive and positions it correctly in the drive hierarchy. (Check your PC's startup screen to determine which key launches the utility.) Once there, also check that "auto-detect" is selected for the drives, if an option. If the utility lets you select the boot order, give your intended boot drive priority over any other hard drive. This information may be under Boot Options, Boot Order, or Boot Sequence.
Save changes and exit the utility. Your PC will reboot.
Tip: Using a SATA PCI interface card? It may have its own BIOS to check. Step 5: Partition and format your hard drive
Our PC runs Windows XP, which lets you partition and format drives within Windows. Older Windows versions, such as 98 and Me, make you do this from DOS.
With XP and 2000, though, use Windows' Disk Management utility. Click Start > Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management, and choose Disk Management from the tree at left. Your new drive should appear, with a black bar indicating it isn't partitioned. Right-click the bar, and choose New Partition to launch the New Partition wizard.
Click Next, and check that Primary Partition is selected; click Next again, to the Specify Partition Size screen (don't change the partition size in the "Partition size in MB" field); and click Next to advance to another screen, on which "Assign the following drive letter" should be selected. Click Next yet again (to the Format Partition screen), and ensure that "Format this partition with the following settings" is selected and that the "File system" drop-down reads "NTFS." Click Next a final time, hit Finish, and formatting begins.
Formatting could take an hour or more, depending on drive capacity. But don't be surprised if your formatted drive has less capacity than the package claims. A 320GB drive, for instance, formats to about 300GB. Drive manufacturers advertise preformatted size, but a portion of the drive is inaccessible.

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Can i upgrade a ide and sata drive on my compaq presario sr2010nx pc?


yes you can. i suggest using a program called acronius true image. add the new hard drive. be sure to turn on the sata or ide option in the setup bios. then use the true image software to clone your operating systems to your new hard drive. your source drive will be the original drive, and the destination drive will be your new drive. once the operation is complete , youll need to enter setup again and suggest that the new drive be your first boot device. just follow the on screen directions to complete the new setup. NOW... you can keep your old drive for a backup drive , or... you can format that drive and use it for a secondary storage drive. the hard drive can be accessed by my computer then open the drive and simply drag and drop or choose the drive from a save file drop down selection location popup window. this will allow you to save important files that can be accessed at anytime if your system main drive were to ever fail. another option you have is to place your old hard drive in a external hard drive enclosure that can be purchased via ebay and will allow you a large storage device that is mobile and hold mass data unlike a flash drive. this can be a very valuable tool and wont cost more than 20.00 here is a link for an ide hard drive enclosure with free shipping. if you need a sata enclosure, change the search results to (3.5 sata hard drive enclosure) the choose buy it now and choose PRICE+shippind:LOWEST FIRST. hope this was helpfull.

http://cgi.ebay.com/3-5-External-Hard-Drive-Enclosure-USB-2-0-IDE-BLACK-AC-/320627700742?pt=PCC_Drives_Storage_Internal&hash=item4aa6e67406

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Can I install a hard drive in an HP Pavilion 6736 which has a capacity greater than 20GB ? If so, is there an upper limit to the capacity..can I install a 120 GB drive?


The size is not an issue with the hardware normally. Usually it has to do with the operating system. If you are running an OS like windows xp you should have no problem.

Just make sure you are using the SAME type interface hard drive. Example PATA Parallel ATA, or Serial ATA (SATA).

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Installation of a 2nd hard drive steps & tips


Step 1: Back up and scout around

First, back up your critical files (don't forget your Outlook .PST archive) to optical discs, an external drive, or online storage. Then check whether a CD comes with the drive, providing drive-specific information and general upgrade assistance. It may also later help you copy the contents of one drive to another. Install this software first. Then, power down your PC, unplug all cables, and open the case. Next, ground yourself by touching a metal portion of the chassis.

Look inside—your first task is to determine where your new drive will go. Bays for internal drives are usually located below the wider, front-accessible bays that house CD or DVD drives. If you plan to replace your boot drive with the new drive and don't have an empty bay, your upgrade will involve more steps than we can cover here. But if you're replacing your boot drive and you have an empty bay, follow our steps for adding a second drive. After formatting it, use Norton Ghost (or a similar program) to clone your boot drive's contents to the new drive. Then, revisit steps 3 and 4 to direct your PC to boot from the new drive.

We'll be installing a SATA drive, but the process is similar for the other common drive type, IDE. SATA drives use a thin, seven-pin data cable; IDE drives use a 40-pin ribbon cable that's usually gray. If you're unsure which drive type your PC already has, check its documentation or label. Most PCs more than a year or two old employ IDE hard and optical drives, and don't support SATA unless they have a SATA PCI card installed. More-recent desktops may use (or just support) SATA drives but should support IDE, too.

Tip: If you transfer Windows XP from one drive to another, you may have to reauthorize Windows.

Step 2: Examine data and power connections


Most hard drive kits include a data cable (SATA or IDE, depending on the drive), a power adapter cable (with some SATA drives), and screws. If yours doesn't include cables, you can purchase them separately.

First, the data connection. If you're installing a SATA drive as secondary storage, follow the data cable from your current drive (assuming it's SATA, too) to the other end. See if an unused SATA port lies nearby on the motherboard or an interface card. If you can't find one, consult your PC's documentation.

If you're adding an IDE drive as a second drive, you may be able to connect it to the same data cable as your primary IDE drive, or along with an IDE optical drive. Look for a third, free connector in the middle of the cable that connects your currently installed IDE drive to the motherboard. Note that some older PCs use 40-conductor IDE cables, not the 80-conductor ones current drives require. (Compare your kit cable to the one installed—the 80-conductor variety has much thinner wires.) 80-conductor cables are backward-compatible (both types use the same 40-pin connector), so you can swap out a 40-conductor cable for your kit's 80 if need be. (The "master" drive goes at the end—see step 3.)

Next, consider the power connection. Our SATA drive has a 15-pin SATA power connector. If you already have a SATA drive installed, follow its power cable (the wider of the two connectors) to see if an unused power-supply lead with the same connector is nearby. If so, earmark that lead for your new drive. If it can't reach the empty bay, see if any bundled adapters help.

Some SATA drives also support familiar legacy Molex four-pin power connectors—you can use a Molex or SATA connector. If so, hunt for a free Molex-style lead. Still no match? Then you'll need an adapter, such as a Molex-to-SATA adapter (some kits bundle one), or a Y-adapter that splits a lead in two.

IDE drives are simpler: They always use Molex connectors. You just need a free Molex-style lead (or a Y-splitter).

Step 3: Mount and connect the drive



When installing SATA drives, jumper settings usually aren't an issue. That's not true of IDE, where a jumper indicates whether a drive is a primary ("master") or secondary ("slave") drive. Check its documentation for the proper setting. If your PC has only one IDE hard drive, it's probably set to "master." Assuming you chain another IDE drive off its cable, the new drive should be set to "slave." (You'll later have to change the jumper to "master"—and attach the drive to the cable's end—if you remove the original boot drive and make the new drive the boot drive.) Another option: Set both IDE drives on an 80-conductor cable to the Cable Select (CSEL) jumper setting. The PC will determine master/slave status according to the drives' placement on the cable ("master" at the end, "slave" in the middle).

Next, look at your current hard drive to see if mounting rails are attached to its sides. If so, screw a set onto the new drive (look inside the case for spares), then slide the drive into its bay. Otherwise, screw it directly into the bay. Four screws are sufficient. Usually, the label side points up; mimic the boot drive.

Attach one end of the SATA data cable (which is keyed for correct insertion) to a SATA port on the motherboard or interface card, the other to the drive. IDE data cables, also keyed, usually have a red stripe that lines up with the "pin 1" marking on the drive.

Next, plug the power-supply lead (keyed, too) that you scouted out in step 2 into the drive, including any necessary extender or adapter. Then close the case.

Step 4: Configure the BIOS

Next, boot into your PC's BIOS-setup utility to verify that it recognizes the new drive and positions it correctly in the drive hierarchy. (Check your PC's startup screen to determine which key launches the utility.) Once there, also check that "auto-detect" is selected for the drives, if an option. If the utility lets you select the boot order, give your intended boot drive priority over any other hard drive. This information may be under Boot Options, Boot Order, or Boot Sequence.

Save changes and exit the utility. Your PC will reboot.

Tip: Using a SATA PCI interface card? It may have its own BIOS to check.

Step 5: Partition and format your hard drive


Our PC runs Windows XP, which lets you partition and format drives within Windows. Older Windows versions, such as 98 and Me, make you do this from DOS.

With XP and 2000, though, use Windows' Disk Management utility. Click Start > Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management, and choose Disk Management from the tree at left. Your new drive should appear, with a black bar indicating it isn't partitioned. Right-click the bar, and choose New Partition to launch the New Partition wizard.



Click Next, and check that Primary Partition is selected; click Next again, to the Specify Partition Size screen (don't change the partition size in the "Partition size in MB" field); and click Next to advance to another screen, on which "Assign the following drive letter" should be selected. Click Next yet again (to the Format Partition screen), and ensure that "Format this partition with the following settings" is selected and that the "File system" drop-down reads "NTFS." Click Next a final time, hit Finish, and formatting begins.

Formatting could take an hour or more, depending on drive capacity. But don't be surprised if your formatted drive has less capacity than the package claims. A 320GB drive, for instance, formats to about 300GB. Drive manufacturers advertise preformatted size, but a portion of the drive is inaccessible.

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Changing hard drive


For some strange reason the HP website does not allude to which drive came with your machine. I would assume that information is in your original shipping manifest, but the site does offer a video or instructions on how to change your hard drive, just remember you will have to "clone" your old drive to the new one so all your features will be enabled in your system.

Take a look at this:

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=bph03429&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&product=90829

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What is this system ide or ?? looking to purchase a hard drive (500gb) and a new CD & DVD burner.. Just don't want to buy the wrong item.


What mother board is it? you have sata and ide drives.. new technology is sata which is connected with sata cable to *********** board and appropriate pover coard, the older teconlogy is ide, which is connected with ide (master slave) cable frm you motehr board to you drive... just post what mother board and i could be more specific...

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Hard drive


at first you have to check it out, whether your hard drive is related on ide or sata. sata is the new technic used now in the recent years. ide is the old technic that comes with the wide bus cables. but sata is a small red colored cable that transfers data more faster than ide.
after that, you have to check it out the mother board settings for connecting with sata cable. because, the older pc have no more settings for sata. if it is available means, no problem to update your hard drive. or you can just go for external hard drives.

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I've just bought a 500GB hard drive seagate sata-II , and it doesn't come with the installation cables, or screws or even the intructions of how to install it. So I don't really konw what cables or things...


All you need is a SATA cable. Can be bought anywhere PC parts are sold or on eBay. You can use the screws from your old hard drive. The SATA drive will only work if your motherboard is current. Older M/Bs only accept IDE drives.

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