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Can a pop off valve be moved from the side to top of a electric water heater model EE3J40RD045V 40 gal?

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Troubleshooting and repairing an AO Smith electric water heater only takes a few minutes, and can save you hundreds in service calls and plumbing bills. The main indications of electric water heater problems are; no hot water, not enough hot water, slow hot water recovery, overheating and loud or unusual noises. Each of these problems has its own cause and repair requirements. We recommend calling a professional; however, you can repair most hot water heater complications yourself. Remember, if your water heater is still under warranty, or you are not sure, call the 1-800 number on your AO Smith water heater and ask for help and parts free.

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Testing AO Smith Electric Water Heater Thermostats

Turn off all circuit breakers and/or disconnect the fuses. Remove the thermostat cover plate(s) with a Phillips screwdriver. Turn the power back on.

Check for incoming power using a voltmeter. Set the meter to read 250 Volts. Touch and hold one lead wire to each of the top left and right screws of the top thermostat (or top two screws of the lower, if only one thermostat is present.) The meter should read approximately 210 to 230 volts of electricity. If no voltage is present with the breakers and fuses on, contact an electrician.

Turn on all the hot water faucets in the house until the water runs cold. This will ensure that the thermostat(s) will call for heat. Turn the faucets off.

Place one lead of the voltmeter on the top left thermostat screw and one lead on the second screw down on the right side of the thermostat. There should be 210+ volts of power. If not, turn the power off to the heater and push in firmly on the red reset button in the middle of the thermostat. You should here a click (but not always.)

Turn the power back on and check for voltage again. If no power, or limited power- fewer than 210 volts are present, check the top water-heating element for proper operation. If full power is present, but you still have no hot water after an hour or two, replace the top heating element. If no voltage, replace the thermostat.
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Turn the power off to the water heater; remove the cover plate(s).

Test for incoming voltage with your voltmeter. Do not proceed until you verify that no voltage is present.

Loosen the two screws on each side of the heating element with a Phillips screwdriver.

Wearing heavy, electrical certified gloves remove each wire from the heating element and bend it slightly back out of the way.

Set your multi-meter to the Ohms position.

Place one lead on each screw of the element. The Ohm or resistance should read 12 to 16; averages are 13 to 14. If the reading is below 12 ohms of resistance, replace the water-heating element.

Reinstall the element's wiring.

Turn the power back on and test the circuit again. Reset your voltmeter to 250V. Full power should now be present. Turn the power off and replace the front cover(s).

Turn the water heater power on and wait an hour or two to check the hot water temperature at several faucets. The recovery time of an average AO Smith residential elect water heater is around 22 gallons an hour. It may take a while to reheat, depending on the size of your unit;

20 gallon 1 hour

30 gallon 1-1/2 hours

40 gallon 2 hours

50 gallon 2-1/2 hours

60 gallon 3 hours

80 gallon 4 hours

120 gallon 6 hours
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Calcium and other mineral buildup on a gas water heater control-valve thermostat probe will limit the heat detectable. You can clean the thermostat by removing the control valve and soaking the probe in a tall glass of white distilled vinegar and a little backing soda. Do not immerse the control valve itself; you will ruin it. Soak it for about an hour, and then rinse will with tap water before replacing.



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When troubleshooting an electric water heater, keep in mind, there are only a few parts to its operating system: the heating element(s), thermostat(s), the main wiring connection junction, anode rod(s), water connections, T&PR valve, drain valve and the tank.



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Temperature and Pressure Relief valve (TP&R)- The brass safety valve usually located on the top, or near the top of water heater.

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