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I have a new chandelier with 9 12 volt halogen bulbs. I want to install an electronic dimmer switch for it. When purchasing the dimmer switch there are 4 wires included: ground, black, white and neutral. In the light switch box there are only the 3 wires: ground, black and white - no neutral. Due to the transfer of energy specifications, is the only way to connect the neutral wire by feeding a line through the walls from the ballast of the chandelier to the light switch box? Is there any way I can just connect the neutral wire to the ground wires? Thanks for your suggestions. I have searched everywhere without luck.

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First you must have a neutral wire in the switch box for this dimmer to work. A neutral wire (white) is a current carrying conductor. A ground wire is an equipment ground and does not normally carry current. You should never connect a device that requires a neutral to a grounding conductor.
The neutral wouldn't have to come from the light fixture as long as it's on the same circuit. Another note is to check your light fixture, and be sure dimming is ok. Another choice you could have is to install a remote dimming device. You would mount this in the fixture canopy, and then use a remote dimmer.

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