Question about Sony VPH D50HTU Multimedia Projector

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I have a Sony VPH-D50Q (with EXB-DS10 Extender) and am using the RGB inputs (InputA??). It recieves std video (480i) just fine but when I send it 480p, 720i or 1080, it says "Input A - No Signal. Also, when I go to the Set Settings menu in Service Setting mode, it indicates that an OSC Pattern P2 and won't allow me to change it. Am I using incorrect setup settings and if so, what should they be? - Tom S

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  • tsims2 Aug 02, 2010

    The S-Video input works for STD TV but I am trying to get 720 and 1080 to it which cannot be done via S-video. It sees 480i from the RGB inputs but thinks there is no signal when fed 720 or 1080.

  • tsims2 Aug 02, 2010

    I undersand the differences between composite, s-video and component video. My problem is not cables but settings on the 50Q. Is anyone out there familiar with the setup for a Sony 50Q. I have the installers manual and have used it for all setting up to this point but can't get it to see "Input A" signals which are higher video quality than 480i even though the projector is cabable of showing higher resolutions.

    thanks. Tom S..

  • tsims2 Aug 02, 2010

    I am still seeking anyone with setup knowledge specifically for the Sony 50Q. Anybody out there with this specific knowledge??

  • tsims2 Aug 02, 2010

    I still need someone's advice who has setup experience on the 50Q beyond focus, registration and basic settings. Specifically, how to get it to see a signal higher res than 480i into the RGB jacks on the projector. It is operating just fine except it doesn't recognize the higher res input signals.

    - Tom

  • tsims2 Aug 02, 2010

    Wrong! HDMI cables are not required to get 1080. COMPONENT RGB is capable of 1080 also. I really would like to hear from anyone familiar with the 50Q.

  • tsims2 Aug 02, 2010

    I have a Sony VPH-D50Q (with EXB-DS10 Extender) and am feeding it using the RGB inputs via BNC Cables (InputA??). It receives std. video (480i) just fine but when I send it 480p, 720i or 1080, it says "Input A - No Signal. Also, when I go to the Set Settings menu in Service Setting mode, it indicates an OSC Pattern P2 and won't allow me to change it.
    Settings include: In Set Settings Menu: Input A: Component, (not RGB, HDTV-YBbPr, or HDTV-GBR).
    5 BNC Mode is Off (not On). In Options: Int IDTV is On (not Off).
    Am I using incorrect setup settings and if so, what should they be?

    - Tom S

  • tsims2 Aug 03, 2010

    I am still hopeful of finding one of your experts who has actual setup experience on a Sony D50Q Projector.

  • tsims2 Aug 03, 2010

    Al (eliteprinter) was right on target with the solution. I really appreciate his help. Diskman was trying to help with a relative website.

    The other experts? were either unfamiliar with the D50Q or were not very bright when it comes to HDTV.

    - Tom

  • tsims2 Aug 03, 2010

    Al (eliteprinter) was right on target with the solution. I really appreciate his help. Diskman was trying to help with a relative website.

    The other experts? were either unfamiliar with the D50Q or were not very bright when it comes to HDTV.

    - Tom

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HI Tom,

In order to configure the proyector for hd video you would need to change a couple of things in your set up.

First you would need to use hd cables, and not the rgb. You can purchase some standard high def cables at any best buy or radioshack, depending on the source device there is the standard high def out, the set of 5 cables, 3 video plus the 2 audio.

To enable the unit to support the progressive DVD signal, perform the following
procedure.

Connect the DVD player’s component output into Input A.
In the SET SETTING menu select HDTV-YPbPr for Input A.
In the INPUT SETTING menu highlight Sync and select EXT (HV).
The IDTV module disables itself automatically

Perform this procedure with nothing connected to the component input on the projector, otherwise you will get the an off/on flickering screen which prevents you from seing what you are doing when navigating the menu screens. Perform the procedure and then connect.

Let me know if you need anything else,

Al

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  • tsims2 Aug 03, 2010

    Thak you Al. For some reason I missed your response to my query and have since posted another. Your suggestions sound good. I will try what you have suggested and then let you know what happens. You are right, the screen goes nuts if I have input connected and that was interfering with my ability to try different settings.

    Thanks again.

    Tom.

  • tsims2 Aug 03, 2010

    Al, you're a genius. I didn't have to change cables but the settings you suggested were exactly correct. I now have 1080 projected on the big screen! Thanks again for your help! Just what I needed!

    - Tom

  • tsims2 Aug 03, 2010

    Al, you're a genius. I didn't have to change cables but the settings you suggested were exactly correct. I now have 1080 projected on the big screen! Thanks again for your help! Just what I needed!

    - Tom

  • tsims2 Aug 03, 2010

    Al, you're a genius. I didn't have to change cables but the settings you suggested were exactly correct. I now have 1080 projected on the big screen! Thanks again for your help! Just what I needed!

    - Tom

  • tsims2 Aug 03, 2010

    Al, you're a genius. I didn't have to change cables but the settings you suggested were exactly correct. I now have 1080 projected on the big screen! Thanks again for your help! Just what I needed!

    - Tom

  • tsims2 Aug 03, 2010

    Al, you're a genius. I didn't have to change cables but the settings you suggested were exactly correct. I now have 1080 projected on the big screen! Thanks again for your help! Just what I needed!

    - Tom

  • Al Toledo Aug 03, 2010

    Hi Tom,

    I was finally able to comment on the thread, I am glad that the problem was solved.

    Take care,

    Al


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It is trying to send Hidef signals through a non hidef connection.you will need to get a HDMI cable for this to work in 1080

Posted on Aug 02, 2010

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    Randy Hough Aug 02, 2010

    ABG (Automatic Background)

    on/off function

    To ensure that white balance is not

    affected by aging of CRTs or

    temperature drift, the VPH-D50Q/D50QM

    has an ABG circuitry individually

    controlling each CRT. However, this

    circuit can be switched off if the

    gray line produced by the ABG

    circuit at the top of the picture is

    unacceptable. This is particularly

    useful in installations such as

    planetariums and in multi-screen

    systems.

    * The ABG circuit is set to on at default







    VPH-D50Q/D50QM

    OPTICAL

    Projection system: 3 picture tubes, 3 lenses, direct projection

    system

    Picture tube: 7-inch (phosphor size 5.5-inch) static focus

    CRT

    Projection lens: Double focus, F1.0/135mm

    Screen coverage: 60 to 250-inch measured diagonally, factory

    preset to 120-inch

    Light output: ANSI*1: 160lm (fH: 64kHz, fV: 50Hz, 6500K)

    130lm (fH: 15kHz, fV: 60Hz, 6500K)

    800lm (peak white)

    200lm (all white)

    Throwing distance: 60-inch 1902mm (6 ft 2 7/8 inches)

    70-inch 2179mm (7 ft 1 25/32 inches)

    100-inch 3016mm (9 ft 10 3/4 inches)

    120-inch 3571mm (11 ft 8 19/32 inches)

    150-inch 4424mm (14 ft 6 3/16 inches)

    200-inch 5844mm (19 ft 2 3/32 inches)

    250-inch 7257mm (23 ft 9 23/32 inches)

    SIGNALS

    Color system: NTSC, PAL, SECAM, NTSC4.43, PAL-M

    Resolution: 700TV lines (video)

    1000TV lines (HDTV)

    1280 x 1024 pixel

    (RGB, measured at fH: 64kHz, fV: 60Hz)

    Scanning frequency: Horizontal: 15 to 64kHz

    Vertical: 38 to 150Hz

    RGB bandwidth: 75MHz-3dB

    GENERAL

    Power requirements: VPH-D50Q: AC 120V, 50/60Hz

    VPH-D50QM: AC 220 to 240V, 50/60Hz

    Power consumption: 450W, Standby: 7W

    Heat dissipation: 1535.7BTU

    Operating temperature: 0 to 40°C (32 to 104°F)

    Operating humidity: 35 to 85%

    Storage temperature: –20 to 60°C (–4 to 140°F)

    Storage humidity: 10 to 90%

    Dimensions: 603(W) x 345(H) x 671(D)mm

    (23 3/4 x 13 5/8 x 26 1/2 inches)

    Mass: Approx. 54kg (119 lb 1 oz)

    INPUTS/OUTPUTS

    Video: Loop-through BNC

    1Vp-p±2dB sync negative, 75½

    S Video:

    Y IN: BNC

    1Vp-p±2dB sync negative, 75½

    C IN: BNC

    Burst 0.286Vp-p±2dB (NTSC), 75½

    0.3Vp-p±2dB (PAL), 75½

    Y/C IN: Loop-through mini DIN 4-pin

    Y (luminance): 1Vp-p±2dB sync negative, 75½

    C (chrominance): Burst 0.286Vp-p±2dB (NTSC), 75½

    0.3±2dB (PAL), 75½

    Input A: BNC x 5

    Analog RGB/Component:

    R/R-Y: 0.7Vp-p±2dB positive, 75½

    G: 0.7Vp-p±2dB positive, 75½,

    G with sync/Y: 1Vp-p±2dB sync negative, 75½

    B/B-Y: 0.7Vp-p±2dB positive, 75½

    Sync/HD:

    Composite sync: 0.6 to 8Vp-p, high impedance,

    positive/negative

    Horizontal sync: 0.6 to 8Vp-p, high impedance,

    positive/negative

    VD:

    Vertical sync: 0.6 to 8Vp-p, high impedance,

    positive/negative

    HDTV*2 (Y/PB/PR):

    Y: 1Vp-p±2dB, 75½

    Tri-level sync: ±0.3Vp-p, Bi-level sync: 0.3Vp-p

    PB/PR: ±0.35Vp-p±2dB, 75½

    HDTV*2 (GBR):

    G with sync: 1Vp-p±2dB, 75½

    Tri-level sync: ±0.3Vp-p, Bi-level sync: 0.3Vp-p

    B/R: 0.7Vp-p±2dB, 75½

    Input B:

    Supplied with an IFB-40: 14-pin multi connector (input: male,

    output: female)

    CONTROL S

    IN PLUG IN POWER: Stereo mini-jack

    5Vp-p, plug in power DC5V,

    maximum output 60mA

    OUT: Stereo mini-jack, 5Vp-p

    REMOTE

    RS-422A: D-sub 9-pin (female)

    ABL Link

    IN: Mini-jack

    OUT: Mini-jack

    TRIG: Mini-jack

    Power On: DC5V, output impedance 4.7k½

    Power Off: 0V

    SAFETY REGULATIONS

    VPH-D50Q: UL1950, CSA950, DHHS, DNHW,

    FCC (ClassB), IC (ClassB)

    VPH-D50QM: EN60 950 (TüV), CE, PTB, C-TickMark

    ACCESSORIES

    Supplied accessories: Remote commander RM-PJ1000

    Remote commander cable (15m)

    Adjusting plate

    AA size (R6) battery x 3

    AC power cord

    Operation manual

    Installation manual

    Optional accessories: Interface board IFB-12/20/21/30/1000*3

    Extension board EXB-DS10 (internal linedoubler

    board)

    Signal interface cable SIC-

    10/20A/20B/20C/21/22/30

    SIC-M (Signal interface cable,1/5/15/25/50m)*3

    Signal interface switcher PC-1271/1271M

    Interface unit IFU-1271/1271M*3

    Suspension support PSS-70

    Suspension support PSS-10

    Remote commander RM-PJM800

    Infrared remote control receiver RM-PJ10

    Mouse receiver RM-PJ20/21*4

    Signal adapter ADP-10 (HD D-sub 15-pin to

    D-sub 9-pin for SIC cable)

    Signal adapter ADP-20 (Macintosh® to VGA)

    Monitor cable SMF-400 (HD D-sub 15-pin to

    5BNC)

    Monitor cable SMF-401 (HD D-sub 15-pin to

    HD D-sub 15-pin)

    9-pin remote cable RCC-5G/10G/30G (D-sub

    9-pin to D-sub 9-pin for RS-422A)

    100-inch flat screen VPS-100FH

    120-inch flat screen VPS-120FH

  • Randy Hough
    Randy Hough Aug 03, 2010

    Here is a setup manual link

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Hello,please kindly visit the site below for a comprehensive instruction on ho to set up your sony VPH D50Q.

www.cinemasource.com/articles/calib_video_proj.pdf

wish you goodluck,

take care.

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  • tsims2 Aug 02, 2010

    Thanks for the website suggestion. I downloaded and read the document. It goes through registration setup but stops short of menu settings. I need advice on setup settings.



    - Tom

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Hi the first step to solve this problem is to uninstall the drivers for Sony VPH D50Q then reinstall them again.

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Some cables are not compatible for the higher settings like,720i or 1080.but they will work for 480i settings. Read the procedure:-- Composite Video (Analog, limited to 480i, High Definition not possible) The lowest quality of video signal, but also one of the most common, found in everything from video games to VHS machines and DVD players. Composite is limited to 480i (standard definition) resolution. Once you’ve seen a higher end high definition signal (720p, 1080i, 1080p), chances are you’ll abandon all sources using composite video, but if you have a large collection of Beta tapes or an old video game, you’ll still need to send a composite video signal to your projector.
Most commercial grade projectors will have a BNC connector for the video connection on the input jack panel. This is a higher grade connector than the consumer RCA jack on the back of a DVD player, and Radio Shack sells a BNC to RCA adapter that will convert the connections. One trick is to use RG-6 cablevision cable as your video cable connection to the projector. That way you can run the video cable up to about 300 feet without loss of the video signal. Simply buy an RCA to F (cablevision connector) adapter at the video source end, and get a second adapter at the projector which is a BNC to F adapter. Then run your cablevision wire between the two.
S-Video (Analog, limited to 480i, High Definition not possible) One step above a composite video signal but still limited to 480i (standard definition) signals. High definition (720p, 1080i, 1080p) is not possible. Relatively speaking, I’d say that an S-Video signal is about 25% better in picture detail than a composite video signal, so wherever possible, use an S-Video feed to send to the projector over a composite video signal. Use the S-video connection will get about 20% more detail (my estimation) over a composite video connection.
Due to the black and white and chroma (color) signal being run separately within an S-video cable, the general recommended length of an S-video cable is limited to 30 feet or less. Longer runs will show that the black and white and color images will not overlap completely on the screen, and the color portion of the signal can lag the black and white one by ¼" on the screen. I’ve seen this happen in one of my own installations, and the only cure is to use a shorter S-video cable (or buy a very expensive S-video signal booster with adjustable phasing controls on it). It is very easy to bend one of the 4 pins on the S-video cable, take care not to bend a pin, or a loss of picture or color will result.
This above cable will help.
Component/YPbPr (Analog, 480i to 1080p resolutions supported):-- Component (YPbPr) signals come in varying resolutions and can support from a basic 480i standard definition video signal all the way up to 1080p high definition. High definition signals usually come in 1080i or 720p outputs from a high definition cable/satellite box and 1080i, 720p, or 1080p from HD-DVD/Blu-Ray players. Note: A component signal is NOT the same as an RGB signal even through the color coding is the same. The signals in component cables are broken up differently than those carried in an RGBHV cable so you cannot switch between the two using simple cables.
The introduction of the component signal format has caused more confusion and frustration than any other signal format. Sometime in 1994 (I’m guessing), some brilliant engineer decided that the decades old RGB industry standard for commercial and industrial video was not good enough for the consumer industry, and thus the component format was invented. Even though the three wires that are coloured red, green and blue for the component signal would indicate a plug and play connection to a display or projecto's RGB input, as component signal and RGB signal are NOT compatible. If you connect a component signal to an RGB input, you’ll only get a green image. The R and B output will be very low.
You can get required cable from
www.radioshack.com--------------
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Hi


I'll suggest you to use an S-Video cable or a BNC cable if you have them, to check whether it is working with them. Also, check the RGB adjustments and reset them from the RGB menu and reset it as it works with 64KHz signal only. Please visit this link and check the settings as given in the manual--

Sony VPH-D50Q User Manual


Please post back for any further assistance. If you are satisfied please do accept the solution.


Daniel

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HI Tom,

For some reason I cannot reply to other inquiry would you please close the problem, I am glad that the configurations worked out for you.

Al

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