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I have gone over the threading of the machine several times and still I cannot get the bottom thread not to loop. Tried the setting dials. I can get the top stitch to look correct, but the bottom is a mess. When placing the bobbin, I do place the thread underneath the gray piece and have a tail sticking out when I but the plate back on. I have the needle go down and it catches the thread. The bobbin thread is then going directly from the bobbin through the sewing port. Is that correct? That is the only thing that I can think that is not right.

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Actually, it sounds like your upper tension is too loose. If the upper tension is too loose, it won't pull the bobbin thread up into the fabric properly. Check out my suggestions on Adjusting Tension and see if that helps.

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Posted on Aug 02, 2010

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If the thread is loose on the bottom of the fabric, it's actually the top thread is too loose. Think of 2 little elves playing tug of war in your machine, one on toip and one underneath. If you have loops on bottom, the top needs to pull harder (tighten top tension)

Posted on Mar 18, 2009

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The solution that I found last night was the thread tension. I have never touched the dial, only had it set on 'auto." When I started playing with it, I realized the top thread should be really easy to pull through the machine and it wasn't. I started turning the dial (to 3 or 4) and the thread slid through the machine perfectly. No more birds nest! I really thought it was bobbin initially because of the horrible sound it was making.

Posted on Jun 05, 2008

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SOURCE: Needle thread looping underneath, threads not interlocking at all

If the machine is now threaded, lift the presser foot.

Now, pull about 10" of thread through the needle.

The next time you thread the machine, lift the presser foot first.

When the presser foot is up, the tension control opens and allows the thread to "seat" into the control, then when the foot is down the control closes to the indicated setting.

When threading the machine with the foot is down, thread does not enter the tension control and when you start to sew, there is no tension on the thread.

No tension = loosey, goosey, loopy stitches underneath.

Because the lack of tension on the top thread, the bobbin thread cannot lock a proper stitch.

Posted on Mar 10, 2010

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SOURCE: Kenmore sewing machine #16227 needle thread making

It is most likely because you have it on a type of stitch but did not switch the didstance that you want the zig zag to be. Just change you stitch or your distance.

Posted on Feb 10, 2011

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SOURCE: now that the needle catches

I had the same problem and ended up taking the machine to a small repair shop. there is a critical timing isue between the top cam and the bobbin, the man did a 5 minute repair and it has worked great eversince. It is a little tricky to setup so I would not try to do it myself.

Posted on May 04, 2011

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If the bottom thread is tight there should also be loops on top and this means that the upper tension is too tight.
Get out your manual (http://www.singerco.com/uploads/download/1198_8763-efs.pdf) and turn to page 24. Under "ADJUSTING TOP THREAD TENSION" it tells you that if you're having thread tension issues, change the tension control dial on the top of your machine from auto. It also shows you a diagram with your problem illustrated on the right side of the page. The bobbin tension is set at the factory, so all tension problems can be solved with top tension adjustment. Set it manually and if it loops on top, loosen the tension a little. Test again. Repeat until loops are gone.
Using different colours on top and bobbin and a contrasting fabric (e.g. black top, white bottom, light blue fabric) means you can easily see what's happening. A perfect stitch is when you see exactly the same stitch pattern on both sides of the fabric. On top, the bobbin thread colour appears between stitches as a tiny dot and on the bottom, you see the top thread dot between stitches.
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There are several possible causes for this problem.

Simplest first.

1) The machine has sat in the closet for three or more months, and the oil has ceased. The fine oil requried for these precision machines does run away, and/or cease up into a grease like paste, causing the parts that move in precise harmony, to be not so precise.
The cure for this, is to remove all thread and fabric, and run the machine full speed for about two to five minutes. This heats up the parts and loosens up ceased parts. A good re application of fresh oil helps too.
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2) Tension dials have been knocked out of balance. There is a numbered tension dial on the front of the machine, somewhere along the threads path from spool to needle. if this is too tight, the thread will not leave a loop big enough to catch the bottom thread. Be sure this is set to about 3, usually. It should be adjusted while stitching, when you get to that point.
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Okie Dokie..... Here's the way I see it.. The repair center was of little or no help to you . So, I will try to do my best..
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