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Thermal protection fuse has started burning out when oven self-cleans. Ran fine for years, now this has started happening. Not every time it self-cleans, but have now replaced second fuse in 2 years. Is there an underlying problem?

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Hi,

The most common reason for this is the door not sealing properly, if hot air escapes out the seal during the clean cycle it will be pulled across the thermal fuse.

The second most common cause is reduced air flow. If the blower wheel is dirty it cannot move as much air across the fuse to keep that area cool, if the vents just above and below the door are dirty and dusty they can block air flow too.


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  • smastro44 Jan 02, 2012

    Can you tell me how to access the thermal fuse. My kebs277sbl1 won't work on self clean cycle so I need to replace the fuse or reset the thermoprotector. Thanks

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