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Water heater keeps running

My daughters electric bill has jumped $150 the last 2 months. I've checked everything and the only thing I could find is if you put your ear on the water heater its always making a noise. Like its always running inside. Could this be the reason the bill is that much higher and how would you fix it.

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Yes it could be the cause; so could a wrong; too high setting
remove power using the house main circuit board panel then: remove the
two panels upper and, lower pull back the insulstion and, you will see:
a round plug with a hexagonal flange these are the heating elements (flanges)
and, the thermostats (brown retangular switches with a red dial; check the dial for temperature that might be too high a setting.

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Did you replace thermostats? Thermostats go bad, or get out of calibration.
Copy following link for tank-type electric water heater troubleshoot:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-troubleshoot-electric-problems-with-water-heater.html

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http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-maintain-water-heater.html
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Also can be caused if factory-supplied insulation and cover are removed from tank, and thermostat exposed to cool temperatures.

1) Read about Stacking to see if this is causing occasional problem.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Stacking.html

2) Quick fix would be: inspect for loose wires and signs of high heat, test the elements, and then replace both thermostats, and see if problem clears up.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-test-water-heater-element.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-replace-thermostat-on-electric-water-heater.html

3) Full test: Take 45 minutes and do complete troubleshoot.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-troubleshoot-electric-problems-with-water-heater.html

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The reset button kicks out because the thermostat detects overheating.
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2) Factory-installed insulation and cover are removed
3) Bad element shorted to ground at center of element, and element continues heating with 120V through the ground wire.
4) Loose wire near upper thermostat, that is shorting and causing heat.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-troubleshoot-electric-problems-with-water-heater.html

Solution:
Check for missing insulation.
Check for loose and burned wires.
Replace both upper and lower thermostat.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-replace-thermostat-on-electric-water-heater.html

If problems continue, test water heater elements and replace bad element.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-test-water-heater-element.html

If you need more help, add a comment and I will respond.
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The reset button or ECO (emergency cut-off) is a safety device.
The ECO trips and cuts off power to entire water heater when it detects temperatures over 150 degrees.
This prevents overheating and eventual explosion of water heater.

The ECO will trip for 4 possible reasons:
1) Bad thermostat. Water temperature inside tank exceeds 150 degrees F because thermostat is sticking in ON position, and thermostat does not turn off element correctly.
2) Loose wire inside or near upper thermostat that causes ECO to sense higher temperature
3) Bad element shorted to ground near center of element, and short does not cause breaker to trip
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http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-replace-thermostat-on-electric-water-heater.html

If problem continues after steps above
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http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-troubleshoot-electric-water-heater.html

Answer back if you encounter something not covered above, and I will help.
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