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I have a whirlpool model # LSR5233EQ0. It washes fine, but when it starts to spin, it bangs around uncontrollably. What is the problem?

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  • hecnlu Jul 31, 2010

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HI. There can be several causes and the problem is worse with some units more than others.The most common cause is an unbalanced wash load. Open the lid, and attempt to redistribute the clothing to balance the weight. Heavy loads, especially things like comforters, are more likely to become unbalanced than small loads. If you do a lot of heavy loads, you should consider a heavy duty/large capacity washer when it comes time to replace your current unit. Now; A washer must be level both from side to side as well as from front to back. Washing machines have adjustable feet to enable you to level them. Make sure the unit is level. this is very important. It may have become mis-adjusted, due to age. Secondly; The outer tub/basket, is supported by springs, pistons or counterweight springs to keep it balanced. The weight of all that water in a wash load requires a powerful balancing mechanism. If the balancing system becomes detached from one or more points, it will not be able to balance the load properly. Furthermore, even if everything appears to be in place, as the appliance ages, the springs or pistons/shock absorbers, may begin to wear out and not support as much weigh as needed. The necessary actions are to open the cabinet for inspection. Once access is gained, Check to be sure that the springs and counter springs are still attached to their respective section on the tub. If they are stretched or not attached, replace them. There are also three tub pads and three suspension pads. Inspect them for ware and replace if needed.

Posted on Jul 28, 2010

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  • hecnlu Jul 28, 2010

    Hello,



    The probelm is not with an unbalanced load as it does this even without clothes in the washer. How would I know if the springs are worn or in need of replacing? I flipped it over and saw the 3 short springs around the bottom of the tub and 1 longer spring in the back attached to the base. Also, when the washer is off, I am able to freely spin the agitator clockwise with no resistance? Should this be or is this a clue to the problem. I have Maytag washer and I cannot spin the agitator clockwise when it is off.



    Thanks

  • Michael Masters
    Michael Masters Jul 28, 2010

    OK, the springs will ware overtime due to metal fatigue. You will not necessarily be able to visually see this, unless they are completely not attached to their respective areas. The main indicator is that this tub bangs even without clothes inside. This will be the strong indicator of failure in those areas. Those springs should be replaced, asap. I would also replace the tub pads and suspension pads as well.

    Concerning the agitator. If the agitator works as designed(agitates back and forth), this will confirm that the agitator is fine. This is a suspension issue and not a agitator issue. It is perfectly normal for the agitator to be turned clockwise.


  • hecnlu Jul 28, 2010

    Are "tub pads" the same as "wear pads". I looked up a youtube video that shows me how to replace a "wear tab" which is why I wonder if it is the same thing. Also, does it make sense for me to try replacing the springs first and than move on the the pads? I assume that the suspension pads are also a different part than the tub pads, right?



    Thanks

  • Michael Masters
    Michael Masters Jul 28, 2010

    Yes, the tub pads are the same as the wear pads. Same part, just differed terminology. As for the suspension pads, there is a picture below that will help you to visually located them. I would replace all in this case. Replace the springs and pads. This will be the better choice. This will prevent you from going through this in the future. Due to the fact that the unit wobbles uncontrollably without no clothes unit, all balancing parts are suspect at this time.

    Suspension Pads Picture:

    Tub ware pads:



  • hecnlu Jul 28, 2010

    Thanks. I am headed out to by the parts now. I am anxious to see if this fixes my problem. I will let you know. Thanks alot!!

  • Michael Masters
    Michael Masters Jul 28, 2010

    Ok; Standing by....

  • Michael Masters
    Michael Masters Jul 28, 2010

    Here is a diagram that will help you locate the pads and springs more clearly. Click here to access the diagram.



    • Suspension pads are labeled number 16 on the diagram provided.

    • The tub ware pads are labeled number 18 on the diagram provided.

    • Counter balance spring is labeled number 15

    • The spring for the leveling mechanism will be labeled number 7

    • Suspension springs will be labeled number 3. There should be three of these to replace.





  • hecnlu Jul 29, 2010

    Well I replaced the springs, but ran into a roadblock. I didnt have a spanner wrench to remove the tub nut. Is there anyway to remove it without a spanner wrench or will I just have to buy one? I also noticed that the plate suspension is not aligned with the triangular base. I assume that this would also cause the problem that I am having?

  • Michael Masters
    Michael Masters Jul 29, 2010

    HI. You will need that spanner wrench, unfortunately. That should have been shipped with your unit when you purchased it. Some retailers do include it, but others may not. It is required. As for that misaligned plate; That will contribute to the uncontrolled wobble, as you have stated. That will usually happen when the counterbalance spring fails. Overweight loads will overstress that plate as well. Once the counterweight springs fails, it will generally stress out the other remaining springs, thus, throwing the whole balancing mechanism out of whack. This will damage the pads, also. This is why I recommend to replace all parts.

  • hecnlu Jul 29, 2010

    OK. Spanner wrench it is. I also wonder if my flooded basement would also throw the plate out of place? I had a flood over the weekend and the washer was tilted by the water. Well I am off to get the wrench and hopefully I have good news tonight after these repairs.

  • Michael Masters
    Michael Masters Jul 29, 2010

    Well, it all depends on how high the water level reached. If it submerged the unit to about a 1/4, this would induce the rust effect. That would then induce metal fatigue. I would assume that it would play a small part in the deterioration of the springs and compromise the integrity of the plates.

  • hecnlu Jul 31, 2010

    Well localwonder, I purchased the spanner wrench and it did its job in removing the nut, but I could not get the tub out. I pulled and pulled and pulled and pulled, but it wouldnt budge. I had a hell of a time aligning the plate suspension, but it did notice that I only had 2 bolts (screws, nails not sure what you call it). They are the ones that hold the base, plate suspension and the tri base together. Well I had to shift, adjust, move, twitch and after a couple of hours, I put it back together, tested it out and it seems to be working OK. Thanks for all of your advice. I have another question coming up after this one about another washer that I have, maybe we will be in touch again.



    Thanks for all of your help.

  • Michael Masters
    Michael Masters Jul 31, 2010

    That is great news. Good work my friend.

    Have a great weekend:)


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