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The clock motor is running but the clock dial won't turn

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The timer needs replaced, the gears inside have become stripped out, and there are no replacements available.

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Tork 1101 dial not working


Tighten the center nut on dial and see if that works.
Following link has general troubleshoot... including flip breaker fully on and then fully off... .
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-troubleshoot-timers.html#box
Check your wiring
Look if motor is running and turning the gears.
Stand on dry boards and wear insulated gloves when holding live electrical wiring.
http://waterheatertimer.org/images/Tork-1101-wiring.jpg
Did you buy the 101 clock motor for 120 volt... or did they send the 201 for 240volt... look at marking on new motor.

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Mar 06, 2015 | TORK Hardware & Accessories

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An electrician installed a new Tork 1103 24 hr timer for the pool pump. You can only manually turn it on and off. When trying to set the time, the dial is loose and does not stay in position and does not...


I think you have 120Volt pool pump.
Add a comment if this is incorrect since wiring information is based on this assumption.

(1) Wiring problem:
Evidence shows timer is wired in reverse (dial only rotates when pump is ON, and dial stops rotating when pool pump is OFF)
Electrician reversed the wires, but wires need to be tested.
Hot wire from circuit breaker always connects to L
Neutral wire from breaker box connects to unmarked terminal.
This will give clock motor continuous power.
Next:
Black wire going to Load (pump) connects to X
White wire going to Load connects to unmarked terminal along with Neutral wire.

Tork 1103 is SPDT timer with 3 watt 120volt clock motor that can control multiple loads and voltages, and can be wired many different ways.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Tork-timers-and-manuals.html#1101
http://waterheatertimer.org/pdf/1103INSTALLOP.pdf

(2) Loose dial. The dial should only rotate counterclockwise when moved with hand. The fact that trippers work when rotated by hand says dial is probably not problem. If timer is used, and trippers skip over and do not turn on Load (pump) then order P47 replacement trippers.
http://waterheatertimer.org/images/Tork-1102-3-500.jpg

Aug 07, 2011 | Hardware & Accessories

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I have 4 zones can run them manually; but they will not come on the automatic setting. Springs are strong; timer itself keeps accurate time. I did read inside the box about a "Silver Pin"...


If zones are not advancing, then 1) Clock motor is not rotating dial > replace clock motor, 2) on-off trippers are worn down > replace trippers, 3) or the day skipper is set to skip all days and all skipper pins are pushed down, 4) or sprinkler valve is bad.

The sprinkler timer dial rotates each 24 hours. The trippers cause sprinkler head to turn on zone 1 for example. Zone 1 waters until the dial rotates to part of dial with no tripper. Without a tripper on the dial, the timer turns off circuit to sprinkler. At this point, the sprinkler valve mechanically advances to zone 2 and waits for timer to turn off again. The timer does not advance sprinkler to next zone > the sprinkler valve is designed to advance each time circuit turns off. The timer just turns on and off. When next tripper rotates around, the timer turn on the circuit and zone 2 begins to water.
http://waterheatertimer.org/pdf/How-to-Set-and-Troubleshoot-Intermatic-sprinkler-timer.pdf

The silver pin inserted at 12midnight position is for advancing the day skipper wheel.
Open following link for parts and resources:
http://waterheatertimer.org/Intermatic-trippers-and-parts.html#sprinkler

Jul 27, 2011 | Intermatic R8806P101C -...

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When pool pump stops at various times when it should be running and not everyday, but sometimes twice a day, if I tap the Tork timer dial it turns on. Only the timer dial, tapping anything else does not...


Could be loose wiring, or bad clock motor.
Check if wires are connected, and make sure only the copper part of wire and no insulation is under the screw plate.
Make sure all wires are same gauge so that screw plate clamps down on wires.
Open following link to identify timer and then add a comment with model number and voltage for possible help. Tork T1100 series has replacement clock motor.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Tork-timers-and-manuals.html

Jun 29, 2011 | York Hardware & Accessories

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I hooked up a new T104 timer and the manual works but its not clicking on and off when it is supposed to or at all. are you suppposed to have the turn dial in a certain position or what


1) The dial should rotate as time passes.
Set trippers on dial at times you want timer to turn on-off.
To set current time: Pull out yellow dial and rotate dial until current time lines up with silver pointer located at 6 o'clock position.

2) If manual override turns Load on-off but dial doesn't rotate continuously, then you have incorrect wiring.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html
Most common mistake is confusing Load wires (wires going to light,fan, motor, pump) with Line wires coming from breaker box.

3) Another possibility is that you have wrong timer: T104 has 240V clock motor.
If your circuit has 120V instead of 240, then clock motor will not rotate dial.
You might need to exchange timer for T101 or T103 timer (see wiring for these timers on link above)

4) How box timers work.
Clock motor rotates dial.
Trippers on dial push lever back and forth.
Lever moves copper contacts that open and close circuit

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Feb 10, 2011 | Intermatic T104 24h 208-277v Mechanical...

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My Intermatic timer is not working. I replaced the WG1573-10D motor but still it does not work. The manual override works so the power supply is ok. Any suggestions welcome.


Your question doesn't provide enough information.

You have 240Volt T104 Intermatic timer?
A) WG1573 is for 240 volt timer. If you have T101 or T103 timer, it takes 125V clock motor.
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/INTERMATIC-Time-Clock-Motor-1PNK1?Pid=search

B) This is new installation? and clock motor only worked when override was ON, so you bought new clock motor. But actual problem is that wires from Load and Breaker are reversed.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html

C) Your timer worked fine in past years, but dial stopped rotating so you bought new clock motor?
You replaced clock motor.
Manual override works.

--And then your information ends.
Does clock motor work? Does the dial turn? Are your on-off trippers on the dial?
Are tripper worn down?
Buy new trippers.
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/INTERMATIC-Timer-Tripper-2E054?Pid=search

If clock motor does not work, and circuit is 240Volts, then I suspect you connected clock motor to wrong terminals>? Clock motor connects to terminals 1 and 3.

Add a comment and fill in details so we can properly troubleshoot.

Dec 04, 2010 | RTO Intermatic Inc Wg1573-10d Replacement...

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Power is good going into the timer but the timer is not running. I am wondering if there is a fuse that needs to be changed or a reset switch? The timer has been replaced in the last year.


If I understand correctly, you have T-104 240V timer.
Timer was running fine before, and recently stopped working.
If this is not your timer, add a comment.

1) Click manual override back and forth to see if Load turns on-off.
If Load does not turn on-off, then check power at Load.
Timer has 5 terminals A 1 2 3 4
Check terminals 2 and 4 for 240Volts when Load is ON

2) Check terminals 1 and 3 for 240Volts to make sure timer has full 240V and breaker is not tripped OFF on one leg. If timer has 120V, it appears to have voltage, but clock will not rotate and Load will not turn on-off. Check breaker for 240V across both screws.

3) Is dial rotating?
If dial is not rotating or is stuck in place, replace 208-277V clock motor.
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/timer-accessories/timers/electrical/ecatalog/N-8hi
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/INTERMATIC-Time-Clock-Motor-1PNK2?Pid=search

4) If dial is rotating, but trippers don't flip on-off lever, then trippers may be worn down. Buy new trippers.
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/INTERMATIC-Timer-Tripper-2E054?Pid=search

5) How to wire T104 timer
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html

How timer works
:
Clock motor rotates dial.
ON-OFF trippers on dial contact lever.
ON tripper pushes lever one direction.
OFF tripper pushes lever other direction.
Lever moves electrical contacts together, or pulls contacts apart.
When lever moves on-off, manual override lever also snaps back and forth with audible clicking sound.

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Nov 24, 2010 | Intermatic T104 24h 208-277v Mechanical...

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I having troble with my t103 timer to turn the lights on manualy i try to set the timer but for some reason doesn't work what can i do ???


T103 Intermatic timer has 120Volt clock motor and can control 120V or 240V Loads.
Wiring for timer is shown on following link:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html#T103

Troubleshoot T103:
1) Manual override is working correctly, and it snaps crisp and clean, and Load turns on-and-off.
That means timer is basically good.

2) Next look to see if yellow dial is rotating.
If dial is not rotating, then 120Volt clock motor needs to be replaced.
Take photo of wiring and mark wires before starting.
Remove two white wires connected to screw terminals 1 and A.
Snap timer mechanism out of box, clock motor is on back of timer.
Use small star screwdriver to remove old clock motor.
Reattach white wires on terminals 1 and A, tighten screws very tight.
Reset current time: lift and rotate dial until current time lines up with silver pointer.
Grainger sells 125V clock motor:
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/INTERMATIC-Time-Clock-Motor-1PNK1?Pid=search

3) If dial is rotating, but gets stuck at certain times, or runs slow, then replace clock motor.

4) If dial is rotating, and trippers are attached to dial, but timer does not turn ON, then trippers are worn down and need to be replaced.
Grainger sells the T103 trippers
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/INTERMATIC-Timer-Tripper-2E054?Pid=search

5) How Intermatic mechanical timers work:
Dial with ON-OFF trippers is rotated by clock motor.
Trippers on dial contact ON-OFF lever.
ON tripper pushes lever one direction.
OFF tripper pushes lever opposite direction.
Lever moves electrical contacts on back of timer that turn Load ON-OFF.
Manual override lever clicks back and forth with each ON-OFF action.

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Nov 20, 2010 | Intermatic T103 Indoor 120-Volt 40-amp...

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I have a w100 tork timer and i would like to know how to repair it and how to position the time pointer.


How to position time pointer
Rotate disk counterclockwise until current time lines up with silver pointer
Place trippers on outer edge of dial > trippers are reversible so one side of tripper in ON > flip tripper over and it is OFF.
Disk rotates with passing time, trippers click lever ON and OFF at set times

How to repair W100:
If dial is not rotating, then clock motor is bad >> W100 uses 120V clock > check markings on clock. Internet shows Tork T101M and T201M clock motors, but unclear if either clock matches W100 timer.
If dial rotates but trippers do not turn Load on-off then buy P-69 trippers
If manual override turns Loan on-off then electric circuit is working
If manual override does not operate Load, then check electric circuit or Load (light bulbs burned out)
If manual override is sluggish or stuck, and doesn't click crisp and clean, then timer is worn out or needs to be cleaned.

Product Manual:
http://waterheatertimer.org/Tork-timers-and-manuals.html#W-series
Link above shows manuals
Manual for W100 does not show specific clock-motor model

To buy parts or another timer
P-69 trippers available on web
Tork T101M and T201M clock motors available on web but unclear if they match W100

http://www.weisd.com/store2/tork/torktimer1.php
Page above sell W-series time dial part #70159 for 72$.
Page does not include photo, so unclear if dial includes clock-motor, or if voltage is 120V
Tork accessories pdf shows part #70159 as dial for W, with no other information

Same seller shows new W100 sells for $148.

Replace Tork with Intermatic, buy T7401B
Website sells T7401B for $114
T7401B is 120V timer and has 120V clock motor
http://www.1000bulbs.com/product/3377/ELEC-T7401B.html
Manual for T7401B
http://www.intermatic.com/~/media/files/intermatic/products/instructions/timers/t7401b%20-%20english.ashx

Nov 16, 2010 | TORK Hardware & Accessories

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Clock will not run


try pulling up (towards you) the yellow clock dial to see if it will catch a gear to turn

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