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Cat 5 wiring issue

I am in the process of building a new home. I am also in the process of wiring it for Cable Tv, Phone and Computer. I purchased several flush mount wallplates and Cat 5 wire. My issue is what is the wiring configuration cat 5 to the back of the plate? I.E. what goes to what ?

The back of the plate looks like this

White Blue
Brown Orange
Yellow Black
Green Red

Now I know Cat 5 is a mixture of wires. What goes to each to get this to work?

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  • gojira87 Apr 21, 2008

    I dont think you follow where I am going, this is the back of a wallplate. The wires need to go in a certain configuration, The wires on the BACK of the plate are not your standard Cat 5 colors. IE Blue Blue/White etc, there are 8 solid colors see my first post. I need to know from the Cat 5 which goes to which color your reply doesnt really coorespond to my quandry. I wish I could post a picture but clockwise the colors I list above are how it looks

  • gojira87 Apr 21, 2008

    No straight RJ45, ethernet port only

  • gojira87 Apr 22, 2008

    I purchased them in the United States at a Loews in Pennsylvania and they are a Philips product.

  • gojira87 Apr 22, 2008

    model # is PH69608

    Modular Outlet works with ethernet connecetions

    RJ45 flush mounted wall jack

    color white

  • gojira87 Apr 22, 2008

    OK then can you recommend a brand that can be purchased at Loews or Home Depot?

  • gojira87 Apr 23, 2008

    I took the plate and cat 5 cable to a local IT tech Im friends with he looked at it and confirmed some of what was said here, howeever he did say these particular plates are VERY common.



    He also said that Philips should incorporate a diagram since the wiring isnt a match. It took us a few minutes but we used the standard wiring configuration in clockwise order and it worked. Thanks everyone for your help and advice

  • Anonymous Nov 08, 2008

    The problem is Philips cat5 wall jacks and I would suspect any other brand that is not Philips would be a solution. However, someone else figured it out the hard way. Here is the solution. http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/ind...

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I know this is an old thread, but for the sake of helping someone else in the future, I just got off the phone with the Phillips Help Desk and this is the way they told me to wire it up the RJ-11 & RJ-45 combo jack I bought (PH60037):

  • RJ-45
  • Jack colors - CAT 5e
  • Blue - white/orange
  • Orange - Orange
  • Black - white/green
  • Red - Blue
  • Green - white/blue
  • Yellow - Green
  • Brown - white/brown
  • White - brown


  • RJ-11
  • White - white/green
  • Black - white/orange
  • Red - blue
  • Green - blue/white
  • Yellow - orange
  • Blue - green
He said it was the standard configuration used by the phone companies for some time.
Phillips Help Desk # for phones/PCs (800-233-8412)
Hope that helps someone else down the road.

Thomas

Posted on Jan 04, 2009

Hi, you purchased "USOC" Jacks, not Ethernet (TIA/EIA568) Jacks, that's why it was color-coded in a different way.
The jack will work ok with the ethernet cable but you have to wire it correctly, i have a USOC cable and to "translate" the colors of the plug to the UTP Cat5 colors, follow this scheme, lgreen for example is the White/green cable.
Brown - lgreen
Blue - green
Yellow - lorange
Green - blue
Red - lblue
Black - orange
Orange - lbrown
Gray - brown

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Hello gojira87

There are a number of references available on the Internet for CAT5 color coding.

HERE is one. THESE are the pairs.

THIS tutorial will provide you w/ some good instructions for data cable wiring along w/ data jack wiring instructions.

Pay close attention to directions regarding tension on the data cables, maximum angle on the cables, **minimal** untwisting of the cables' twisted pairs. Untwist the bare minimum necessary in order to mount the wire.

If you're building a new home, I'd recommend you use CAT5e data cable (as opposed to CAT5). However, CAT5 will work fine if that's what you've purchased already.

Be sure to stay w/ 568A wiring. Don't mix up 568A and 568B wiring conventions. 'B is used for "cross-over" connecting w/ an 'A connection. For standard house wiring, you should need only 568A wiring.

Below are the standard colors for twisted pair CAT5 cable.
* Blue
* Blue-White
* Orange
* Orange-White
* Green
* Green-White
* Brown
* Brown-White

If you have ANY more questions at all, please, post back here and let us know. We'll be more than happy to continue to assist you.

Please, wait until you have everything you need and you no longer need our assistance b4 assigning a rating.

If I answered your questions and you have no other questions or need of our assistance on this topic...would you kindly take just a moment to close the problem by assigning a FIXYA rating for my "solution"? I would be very grateful for your generosity and show of appreciation.

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    B Joan Rapier Apr 21, 2008

    Hi gojira87



    (Q-01) Do you have a model or part number and manufacturer for the wall jacks you're attempting to use?



    (Q-02) Have you installed CAT5/5e DATA jacks b4?



    (Q-03) Is this wall mount a *DATA* jack mount w/ at least one RJ45 connection?



    (Q-04) I've done a bit of pulling cable and installing data jacks. I haven't run across any w/ red and black color coding. That doesn't mean they aren't out there but I'm inclined to think the ones you have aren't intended for CAT5/5e data cable or, at the very least, they're non-standard.



    I can't be sure, of course, w/out either seeing the jack or, better, seeing it on the manufacturer's or a distributor's web site.



    If you're attempting to use non-standard wall jacks you might want to consider abandoning that idea as, down the line, the non-standard color coding may cause confusion for future attempts at modifying or trouble-shooting wiring issues.
















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    B Joan Rapier Apr 21, 2008

    (Q-05) Are the wall mounts you're attempting to use combination RJ11 & RJ45 (telephone and data jacks)?

  • B Joan Rapier
    B Joan Rapier Apr 22, 2008

    Geeze. Hmmm. 'Cause the colors you've indicated on this jack are phone line color coding....



    I'm gonna post in the experts' lounge and see if anyone recognizes the color coding of this RJ45 jack for you, OK?



    (Q-06) In the interim; did you purchase these wall jacks in North America (US or Canada)?



    (Q-07) Where did you purchase them from?



    (Q-08) Do you know the manufacturer of these wall jacks?

  • B Joan Rapier
    B Joan Rapier Apr 22, 2008

    Thank you for the info., gojira87.



    HERE is Philip's listing for this product. They have no documentation for it but they do offer customer service.



    HERE is their customer service information including a toll free domestic (USA) phone no.



    THIS is the ethernet wiring that I am familiar w/. I've always used wall jacks that mirrored these color codes.



    So, the color coding that the philips data jacks you have are not the norm' for data jacks. At least not in my experience. Mind you, I don't pull cable for a living so, I might've missed something.



    If it were my house, I'd take them back and get data jacks that reflect the color coding standard. You'll be grateful you did down the line when you're having to trouble-shoot wiring issues or make changes to your existing wiring. You may figure out the wiring on these jacks now but what about years down the line when you've forgotten all this and have to repeat this process of figuring out your wiring while trouble-shooting or making changes to your wiring. I recommend you stick w/ well known industry standards for your data wiring. It'll pay off in the long run. :)










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    B Joan Rapier Apr 22, 2008

    Hello gogira87



    I wouldn't worry so much about the brand as the type.of jacks you purchase.



    Generally, what is done is you purchase the wall plates w/ holes in them to accomodate RJ45 jack(s) (and RJ11 and Coax, etc).



    Then, separately, you purchase the wall jacks and other connections to mount into the wall plates.



    See HERE for an example.



    "Keystone" is an industry standard type of RJ45 CAT5/5e wall jack. You can find them in lots of different electronics and cabling supply retailers online and in local "brick and mortar" stores of this type. The jacks themselves are usually marked w/ the color coding for the wires or instructions come w/ them for the wiring (or both).



    You can even find instructions online for properly terminating this industry standard data jack type.

    (See HERE for one example)



    As a rule, retailers that have the keystone jacks will have the wall plates, too. So, when you search for a store (online or locally) that has these, just ask for keystone RJ45 jacks. If they have them, they'll know what you're talking about.



    You can find keystone jacks online, too.

    On eBay HERE.

    On Newegg.com HERE.



    Just search for "keystone jacks" in your favorite search engine.



    You'll get the best price buying them in bulk (bags of x number of keystone jacks).






  • B Joan Rapier
    B Joan Rapier Apr 22, 2008

    Quite often, too, you'll find in the industry is the color of the data jacks are BLUE. This sets them apart from the telephone line (RJ11) jacks (usually the same color as the wall plate) and makes it readily apparent that a given "drop" (connection) is a data (ethernet) connection.






  • B Joan Rapier
    B Joan Rapier Apr 23, 2008

    You're certainly welcome. Glad you got it worked out. I thought that someone who pulled cable a lot might be more familiar w/ these jacks. If I were you, I'd slip a little sheet of paper w/ the diagram on it inside w/ the jacks.



    I couldn't give you the wiring because I didn't know the inner wiring of the jacks themselves and Phillips wasn't giving up ANY information what-so-ever about them.



    Again, I'm glad it worked out. Good luck on your new house!



    BJ @:)


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I ahve the same problem but realize that it MAKES NO DIFFERENCE what the order in which you wire the Philips plates as long as you use the same order on all plates.
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