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THE KNOTTER KEEPS BREAKING THE STRING. TRIED ADJUSTING. BALED 10O BALES YESTERDAY THEN STRING STARTED BREAKING ADJUSTED AGAIN. BALED 10 MORE STARTED BREAKING AGAIN THIS WENT ON FOR ABOUT 2 HOURS. IF ANYONE CAN GIVE US ANY HELP ON TROUBLESHOOTING THIS DARN 348 JOHN DEERE HAY BALER. RAIN COMING IN AND KNOTTER DOESN'T WORK

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How much tension is on the tensioner,back it off a bit and try it,also have you tried a different type or bail of twine depending how old the bail is your using and its not rotted

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Http://www.deere.com/en_US/ag/servicesupport/tips/hayforage/ottumwa-irregular-bale-length.html#

The above addresses irregular bale length. The knotter breaks the string.

http://www.deere.com/en_AU/equipment/ag/hay_forage/square_balers/gear.html

The above discusses using a gear driven knotter.
http://www.ytmag.com/implment/messages/145993.html

The above discusses troubleshooting the knotter in Yesterday's tractor forum.

I think there are literally hundreds of resouces if you search under
the following search terms:
'348 JOHN DEERE HAY BALER troubleshooting knotter'

I can't go through all of them, now, but I'm sure it will lead to a solution for you.

Good luck, to you, in baling hay.


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