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Making and dropping ice, but not retaining ice...evidently melting...feels cold, but no accumulation. Is the white tube hanging down supposed to be connected to the drain line in the bottom?

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Yes to drain line. Clean the condensor and evaporator first. Check the spray jets to see it they are clogged. There is a screen on the inlet water valve as well. Check door seals and cabinet tight.

All else fails look for oil around the hot gas valve.

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If your unit is still under warranty, do not hesitate to call for repairs. When the service person attends the problem, watch carefully, note the sequence of operations, closely observe his or her technique, because this will happen again. Clearing this ice can cost you $300 or more each visit.

Some designs have called for a restricting nipple located at the end of the tube supplying the evaporation pan. This serves to impede the tiniest of debris inside the tube, progressively freezing the blocked water up to and beyond the drain located under the freezing fins then into the freezing compartment itself. Remove that nipple! Your repairman will not remove it because it voids the warranty if you still have one. The nipple is there to assure the industry you will be buying another $2000 unit soon.

My first fridge lasted 37 years before I decided to purchase a new one due to increasing inefficiency. I unblocked its drain tube twice in those 37 years. There were no restricting devices. The particles were simply inevitable chunks which got caught over time and unlike modern units, were easy to access. That unit was a large GE frost-less, We were careful through the years to keep dust from the condenser coils..... so we thought. When I got the unit into the yard, I tipped it forward to discover dust impacted around the 18 inch condenser coil stack inaccessible when the fridge was in the kitchen. A high pressure water source was required to blast away that densely compacted dust. After the unit dried, I plugged it in and the efficiency was as good as new, but I already had a new unit filled with food, standing in the kitchen where the old GE once stood. Despite that, the new fridge uses only an average of 30 watts continuous power, cutting my electric bill in half, paying for itself in saved power consumption over three years.

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