P4 3.4 GHz Problem

Solution #2

posted on Aug 10, 2005

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"Michael Lund S??rensen" <laeses-i @gromit.dk> wrote in message



You might have a problem with your XP install on that machine, kernel issue
possibly.

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Solution #3

posted on Aug 10, 2005

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Could you explain that a little bit more, plz!

It's a new machine, 'born' with XP home an upgraded to XP pro.
There is allmost nothing on the machine.
The HT was enabled under upgrade.

Du you think it's better if I clean the harddrive and installe the XP Pro as
the first OS ? Shoud it help?

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Solution #4

posted on Aug 10, 2005

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Didn't help at all! But now it is done.

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Solution #5

posted on Aug 10, 2005

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John Howells  skrev :

Yes!

No, the HT is a MUST !
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Solution #6

posted on Aug 10, 2005

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"Michael Lund S??rensen" <laeses-i @gromit.dk> wrote in message



I'd have to say that based on your description, works perfect on your P4
3Ghz, crashes on your P4 3.4GHz, then there really is a problem with the
3.4Ghz PC.

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Solution #7

posted on Aug 10, 2005

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John Howells  skrev :



There is no problems in ThrottleWatch. The MSI monitor application PCAlert 4
says 61 C at max and 55 C at normal.

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Solution #8

posted on Aug 10, 2005

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Michael Lund S??rensen  skrev :



It seems to work with HT disabled!
I have to live with that until I find a better solution.
Thanks!

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Solution #9

posted on Aug 10, 2005

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Yes, but the PC works fine! It ran Prim95 for 3 hours yesterday wit at
temperature of 61 C, case 55 C and ambient 25 C.
I ran ThrottleWatch and System monitor at the same time, and it all looked
perfect!

I ran PowerDVD and saw a film at the same time (it stopped from time to
time).
The PC seems to work perfect, except with Premiere and Encore.
I (or the company) will keep the PC ('s) and upgrade PP and E.

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Solution #10

posted on Aug 10, 2005

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"Michael Lund S??rensen" <laeses-i @gromit.dk> wrote


Does the older P4 have Hyper-Threading enabled (do you see two "CPU Usage
History" graphs in the Performance tab of the Task Manager)? Have you tried
disabling it in the BIOS on the new PC?

John Howells

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Solution #11

posted on Aug 10, 2005

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The OP wasn't clear ... did Premiere crash? or did Windows crash?

If it's Premiere that crashed ... well, welcome to the club. I gave up on
Premiere two years ago. I couldn't keep it running long enough to get any
useful work done. It would just hang. But Windows was unaffected.

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Solution #12

posted on Aug 10, 2005

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John Howells  skrev :



Thanks John, I will try the throttle watch

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Solution #13

posted on Aug 10, 2005

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It could be any number of things but most likely it's one of two things.
Heat or crappy software.

Heat: Download Prime95 and run it for a cuppla hours. If it produces NO
errors you can rule out heat.

Crappy software: Both titles you mention are notorious for crashing on NT
based O/Ses. Download the free trial of DVD Lab and try a project or two. If
it works  without error ... buy it.

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Solution #14

posted on Aug 10, 2005

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Octavian  skrev :

Premiere closes down with a notic 'Unexpected end of application'.
Windows an any other application keeps running.
I's the same Premiere version as we have been using for a long time, and it
works fine on P4 3.0 PC's and my XP3000+

But the new P4 with 1 MB cache, 3,4 GHz CPU is running much faster than the
old and we want to switch PC's.
The newone have even SCART connectrion with RGB out
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Solution #15

posted on Aug 10, 2005

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sedum  skrev :



There where 512 MB, now there is 1.5 GB dual DDR2 Samsung/800 MHz
I will takt the original memory out. The 'new' are old and well used.

Yes, that a posibility, but to new PC's with same fault ?

The CPU has a major heatsink and a fan. The fan is quiet when I begin, but
rater noise when the PC's have to work hard.

Yes. I have another I can put on the harddrive.

Absolutly good ideas, BUT other applications don't die! If it was a power
problem, the other applications would close down to. The don't.

Thanks, David !

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Solution #16

posted on Aug 10, 2005

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"sedum" <s @nonsense.com> wrote

Although one should never say never, with a P4 that *SHOULD* not be a
problem, as it should automatically throttle back when it gets hot, to
remain within its allowed temperature.

Even so, this http://www.panopsys.com/thrott lewatch.htm useful little
utility can help. I used it on my P4 system to set the fan speed such that,
when working hard for an extended period recoding video, it was as quiet as
possible without ever needing to throttle back.

John Howells

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Solution #17

posted on Aug 10, 2005

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On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 01:01:18 +0100, "Michael Lund S??rensen"

PC's that crash, in my experience, can be down to:
1. Not enough memory. These video applications need a lot. Probably
need at least 500MBytes.
2. A memory fault. Normal use may not find the problem, but large
applications will. If you have two memory cards, try each on its own
and see what happens.
3. Processor cooling. When CPU's start to work for 100% of the time as
they do in video applications, they start to warm up and can overheat
if the fan is not doing its job properly. (I have a software
temperature monitor to check).
4. Power Supply's output not stable or intermittent. Difficult to
troubleshoot without specialist equipment.  Swap out best way.

Hope that helps
David

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