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Compaq s4100nx pci vs pci-express

I have compared the slots to a manual and it appears to be a PCI slot with one divider on the front side. The graphics card i am looking at has slots on the contact row in the front and back. My modem card (existing) also has a slot where the contacts are as well as where the divider is. So the modem card and the potential graphics card visually match.

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Ok fine then you can buy the graphics card ...
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My asus p5nsli has no graphics soket on board but has got a sater in the place it should be can you tell me wot lead i nead thanks


Asus P5NSLI mobo?

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_775/P5NSLI/#specifications

Supposed to have two expansion slots for PCI Express graphics cards.

If the Blue one is used ONLY, it is PCI Express X16

When two -> SLI-Ready <- PCI Express cards are plugged into the Black PCI Express slot, and the Blue PCI Express slot; the Black PCI Express slot operates at x8.

PCI Express x8

The Blue PCI Express slot does also. PCI Express x8.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express

Motherboard User's Manual download page,

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_775/P5NSLI/#download

Scroll the page down using the Right side bar; then scroll down the inner scroll bar to the English version of the manual,

P5N-SLI User Manual for English Edition (E2234)
4.46Mbytes -> 2007.06.12
Click on the blue Global

[PDF file form. The computer you are using now has Adobe Reader on it, which uses PDF files.
After you click on Global it may take up to 30 seconds, before the first page comes up.

Hover your mouse cursor at the bottom/middle, and the ghosted out navigation guide will appear.
Go all the way to the right, and click on the Adobe PDF icon.
When you hover your mouse cursor over it, Show Adobe Reader toolbar, will briefly appear.

Click on the Zoom In ( + ) icon at the top to Increase the view size; Zoom Out ( - ) icon to decrease ]

1.8.6 Two PCI Express x16 slots -
Page 24 for the PDF file; Page 1-24 for the actual manual page.

So you're stating that one of the PCI Express slots are gone?
Just solder blobs where it should be?
Reply in a Comment.

Both PCI Express expansion slots are gone?

There are still the white PCI expansion slots. Not ANYWHERE as good, but any of them can be used for a PCI graphics card.

Regards,
joecoolvette

Dec 08, 2012 | ASUS P5NSLI (0610839134670) Motherboard

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How can I install a PCIe video card to the riser on an IBM Thinkcentre A-52 computer?


John,

http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/guides-and-manuals/default.page?

In the list under the bold red Guides and Manuals subheading,
click on Hardware maintenance manuals.

Click on the blue -> [+] Click for files

Now click on the blue -> Hardware Maintenance Manual
(Above - 41d4550.pdf / 8.53MB )

This is a PDF file. May take up to 30 seconds, before the first page comes up.

At the top of the PDF file is the PDF file page number box. It is to the right of the Down Arrow.
If you know the page you want you can go to it page, by page, using the Down Arrow, or you can do this;

1) Put your mouse cursor in the PDF file page number box.
Left-click once.
(Anything in page number box is now highlighted in Blue)

2) Type the page number.
3) Press the Enter key.

Also at the top is the Zoom In icon, ( + ), and the Zoom Out icon,
( - ).
Clicking on the Zoom In icon increases the view size.
Clicking on the Zoom Out icon decreases the view size.

Go to Page 263.

The Riser Card, or 'Daughter Card', is supposed to have
ONE -> PCI-Express x16 slot.
(Riser card is pointed out by the number 12 )

http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/detail.page?LegacyDocID=MIGR-60400

Scroll the page down. Look under the bold subheading - Slots

"Slot 1: full length, x16 (16 Lane) PCI Express (graphics only)"

However it also states,

"Slot 2: half-length, x1 (1 Lane) PCI Express
Slot 3: half-length, PCI
Slot 4: half-length, PCI"

Hmmmm, okay, let's look at the 'Daughter Card',

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Thinkcentre-S51-A52-PCI-PCI-e-x1-Riser-Card-/300562298930

Scroll the page down to the bottom to the photo.

The long white expansion slot on top is a PCI slot,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PCI_Slots_Digon3.JPG

The black 'slot' underneath, is a combo of PCI-Express type expansion slots.

Looking at the contact pins;
A PCI-Express x1 expansion card, would fit in the slot all the way to the right, in the photo.

See the details printed in-between the white PCI slot, and the black slot underneath?

"PCIe x1 - ADD2 - R SLOT"

PCI Express x1 card - Add to the Right Slot

Means to me the entire slot, is used for a PCI-Express x16 graphics card.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PCIExpress.jpg

The top Yellow slot is an example of a PCI-Express x4 slot.
Next slot down is an example of a PCI-Express x16 slot.
Next slot down is a PCI-Express x1 slot.
Next slot down is a PCI-Express x16 slot.
The last example is a PCI slot.

[Note* Color does not matter of the slots ]

From my perspective of looking at the photo for the Riser Card, I see the PCI-Express x16 slot, (Black), as being too wide in the middle.

Do not see that the gold plated contact pins of the PCI-Express graphics card, will make good contact with the contact pins, in that Black slot.

Haven't worked on a 'Pizza-Box' style of desktop computer in YEARS, so I am kinda' out of the loop.

IF, a PCI-Express graphics card does indeed make good contact, I suggest using a Low Profile one.

Just one example,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1380614&CatId=3669

Post back in a Comment, John.

Regards,
joecoolvette

Aug 08, 2012 | Computers & Internet

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WHAT GRAPHICS CARDS ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE AVERATEC ALL-IN-ONEDESTOP PC'S?


1) It has an Intel G35 Express motherboard chipset,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_intel_chipsets#Core_2_chipsets

Under the - Chipset heading on the left, scroll down to - G35

Note that under the - Graphics heading, all the way to the right, that the Intel G35 Express chipset;

1) Will support a PCI-Express x16 expansion slot. This means a PCI-Express graphics card can be used, IF, there is a PCI-Express x16 slot on the motherboard.

[ PCI-Express is a technology. The current PCI-Express technology is PCI-Express 2.0

There is a PCI-Express x1 expansion slot, and a PCI-Express x16 expansion slot. (Not relating to Your computer at the moment)

The PCI-Express x1 slot is Not used for a graphics card.
The PCI-Express x16 slot IS,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express ]

2) Has Intel GMA X3500 Integrated Graphics.
Meaning if there is NO graphics card installed right now, the computer is using Integrated Graphics, (Intel GMA X3500,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_GMA#GMA_X3500

Now,...you are essentially working on a laptop with a touchscreen.
Once you remove the 10 screws from the Back Cover, and remove the cover, you are looking at the exposed circuitry of the computer.

You NEED to follow Anti-Static Precautions. This cannot be performed as on a regular desktop computer. Touching the metal frame (Of the unplugged from power computer) will do you No good.

You need to use an ESD wrist strap, and connect it's alligator clip to a good ground source. [ Electro Static Discharge]

Your body carries Static electricity. Static WILL fry out (Short Circuit) the delicate hardware components inside a computer.

With the Back Cover off the manufacturer knows all of the hardware components are exposed. This means the person working on the computer should be aware of Static issues, and use proper tools.

The average consumer is not aware of this. This is why only a ram memory upgrade is recommended by the manufacturer. (Before they went out of business)

This is why there are no service manuals released, also.
Only for the qualified authorized service techs.

So,...let's look together. See if there is a PCI-Express x16 slot, for one.
It can be any color. Will be longer than any other expansion slot on the motherboard. The PCI slots (Usually white) are not as long.
(164 contact pins. 82 on each side)

These examples of a PCI slot, and versions of a PCI-Express slot, are all the same color. (Yellow) Not usual for a desktop computer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PCIExpress.jpg

The top example is an example of a PCI-Express x4 slot.
Hardly EVER used, I didn't mention it.
Has 64 contact pins. 32 on each side.

The next slot down is an example of a PCI-Express x16 slot.
164 contact pins. 82 on each side.

Next down is an example of a PCI-Express x1 slot.
36 contact pins. 18 on each side.

Next down is another example of a PCI-Express x16 slot.

Last example is an example of a PCI slot. TOTALLY different technology than PCI-Express.
124 contact pins. 62 on each side. (Unless PCI that is 64-bit)

IF, there is a PCI-Express x16 slot on the motherboard, you can use PCI-Express 1.1 or 2.0 graphics cards.

You need to be concerned with;

A) How much height is available for the graphics card, and how much length? Check the measurements inside the computer. Match to dimensions of the graphics cards you are looking at.

B) How much POWER does the graphics card require? It's in the Minimum Requirements stated for the graphics card.
How much power is available to the all-in-one computer?

This could be an instant stopping block.

AMD ATI Radeon graphics cards generally use less power, than a comparable Nvidia graphics card.

C) Worried about your computer per se uses DDR Sdram ram memory, and the graphics card uses GDDR3 ram memory? (Just an example. Not directly related to Your computer)

Don't be. Doesn't matter what graphics memory a graphics card uses.

The graphics card does Not rely on the system resources (Processor and Ram Memory) of the computer.
A graphics card has it's own Processor, (GPU. Graphics Processing Unit), and graphics ram memory.

For additional questions, or to have me explain in further detail, or to clarify, post in a Comment.

Regards,
joecoolvette

Feb 26, 2012 | HP Presario Computers & Internet

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What Wireless card to buy


A version that is Wireless N.

You can install a Wireless N adapter card in any available (Open)
white PCI slot, or use a Wireless N adapter that plugs into any available USB port.

1) Dell Support > Studio XPS 8100 Desktop PC > Service Manual,

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/studio8100/en/sm/index.htm

I would like you to click on - Technical Overview

Now on System Board Components

The number 23 points to the white PCI slot.
The numbers 24 and 26 point to a PCI-Express x1 slot.

You can buy a Wireless N adapter card to fit either a PCI slot, or a PCI-Express x1 slot.

{NOTE* Number 27 points to a PCI-Express x16 slot.
This = NO.
This expansion slot is used for a graphics card, ONLY }

Examples of a Wireless N adapter card for a PCI slot, and a PCI-Express x1 slot,

A) PCI: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4389486&CatId=2701

B) PCI-Express x1:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=788312&CatId=2702

C) USB:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5079829&CatId=2688

Why use anything but a USB Wireless N adapter?
I don't know. They allow me to toot the whistle, but not drive the train.

Information on PCI, and PCI-Express;

PCI:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_local_bus

PCI-Express:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express

For additional questions please post in a Comment.

Regards,
joecoolvette

Feb 11, 2012 | Dell Studio Xps 8100 Desktop Computer

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Hi, Is Asus ATI Radeon HD6450 Silence 1GB DDR3 VGA/DVI/HDMI Low Profile PCI-Express Video Card capable for my Compaq HP Presario SR2020NX? -thanks a lot.


You mean will the Asus ATI Radeon HD6450 with 1GB of graphics memory, work in a Compaq Presario SR2020NX Desktop PC?

Yes.

The Compaq Presario SR2020NX Desktop PC has a PCI-Express x16 expansion slot.

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00757470&tmp_task=prodinfoCategory&cc=us&dlc=en&lang=en&lc=en&product=3245048

{Motherboard illustration and photo are towards the bottom of the page}

Look at the specifications.
Scroll down to the heading - Expansion slots.

Three PCI. (PCI expansion slots)

One PCI Express x16 graphics.

NOTE*
Looking at the motherboard illustration, it is Wrong.
Shows - PCIEX1 (PCI E X1)
According to the specifications it is a PCIEX16 expansion slot. (PCI-E x16)

A PCI-Express x1 slot has 36 contact pins. 18 on each side.

In comparison a PCI slot {White} has 124 contact pins. 62 on each side.

Looking at the photo of the supposed PCI-E x1 slot they show, the black PCI-Ex1 slot is longer than the white PCI slots.

It is a PCI-Express x16 slot with 164 pins. 82 on each side.



The Asus ATI Radeon HD6450 uses a PCI-Express x16 expansion slot.

So you know the graphics card will fit. Low-profile to boot.

Power requirement:
The Compaq Presario SR2020NX desktop computer comes with a 300 Watt power supply.
(Although in actuality it's more like 70 percent of the maximum rated wattage. 210 Watts)

Enough power for the computer, and the graphics card.
ATI graphics cards do not use as much power as a comparable Nvidia graphics card.

Concerned that the Asus graphics card uses DDR3 graphics ram memory, and the Presario SR2020NX uses DDR2 Sdram ram memory?

Don't be. The graphics cards graphics memory runs independent of the computer's ram memory.

Information on PCI-Express,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI-Express

For additional questions please post in a Comment.
(Top right of your page, blue Comment)

Regards,
joecoolvette

Sep 15, 2011 | HP Compaq Presario SR2020NX PC Desktop

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Type of video card


The Compaq Presario SR1630NX desktop computer, has a PCI-Express x16 slot on the motherboard, for a PCI-Express graphics card.

The Presario SR1630NX came out in 2005.
PCI-Express 2.0 technology came out January 15, 2007.

The Presario SR1630NX uses the PCI-Express 1.1 technology.

You can use a graphics card based on the PCI Express 2.0 technology, however.

PCI Express 2.0 is Backward Compatible with PCI Express 1.1

You just won't get the full capability, of a graphics card based on the PCI Express 2.0 technology.

Will you notice?

NO


May 24, 2010 | HP Compaq Presario SR1630NX PC Desktop

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How can i tell the difference between pci slots and pcie slots


The Peripheral Component Interconnect or more commonly known as PCI is a standard for connecting a lot of devices inside your computer to extend its capabilities. Devices like sound cards, modems, NIC, TV Tuners, and some video cards have at some point or another have used the PCI port.
PCI express ( PCI-E ) is a much improved version in terms of speed. PCIe uses a serial interface instead of the old parallel interface used by PCI. It also utilizes individual buses for each of the devices connected to it instead of a shared one like what PCI uses. The difference in speed is quite huge when comparing the standard PCI slot which runs at 133MB/s to a 16 slot PCIe that can send or receive up to 16GB/s.

The most common use for PCIe nowadays is with graphics cards which benefits hugely from the huge bandwidth provided by the interface.
1. PCIe is much faster compared to PCI.
2. PCIe uses a serial interface while PCI uses a parallel interface.
3. PCIe speed is classified into lanes, each capable of delivering up to 1GB/s data transfer.
4. PCI slots are standardized while PCIe slots vary depending on the number of lanes the slot is intended for.
5. Despite PCIe superiority, most manufacturers still use the PCI standard for their devices.

Unlike PCI slots which are the same size for all devices, PCIe slots can differ depending on which form factor it accepts. The longest would be the 16 lane slot and understandably, the shortest is for the x1 devices.

I hope this much information is enough for you to understand the difference between both of them. If you need any more help let me know.. !

May 13, 2010 | Dell Dimension 3000 PC Desktop

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Why hardware system may require the installation of new hardware components?


Well there's two reasons. One is that software keeps getting more and more complicated. The other is that with the new technologies come new standards that the old pieces don't conform to and therefore won't work with. I'll use graphics cards as an example.

In the beginning, the IBM PC/XT and its clones had 8-bit bus slots. This is where the video card (such as it was) would be plugged in. As time went by, 16-bit computing came to the consumer market with the advent of the IBM AT (Advanced Technology) and the Intel 80286 CPU. The 8-bit slots now were 16-bit slots called ISA. Fortunately, 8-bit cards continued to function in ISA slots but the 16-bit ISA cards outperformed them and so nobody wanted the 8-bit cards anymore. The same thing happened when the industry advanced again with the 32-bit Intel 80386DX and SX. The bus architecture changed to the 32-bit EISA which again was backwards-compatible with ISA. Things changed during the time of the 486 when the VESA standard appeared. It didn't dominate the market because it didn't have time to. EISA was already entrenched and just as VESA started to catch on, a familiar face appeared. The familiar face was PCI, it was introduced just before the original Pentium and was the fastest bus slot ever seen. The PCI slot dominated for awhile but computing got progressively more graphic intensive and the PCI slot couldn't cope because it is a shared bus (All the PCI slots on the motherboard share bandwidth with each other). AGP was introduced in 1997 (AGP 1x) and got progressively faster with 2x, 4x and finally 8x. PCI-Express v1.0 appeared and immediately offered double the bandwidth of AGP. AGP's days were now numbered. PCI-Express v1.0 was upgraded to PCI-Express v1.1 but even that was soon superceded by PCI-Express v2.0 which again doubled the bandwidth over PCI-Express v1.0/1.1. Although PCI-Express v2.0 is completely backwards compatible with previous versions of PCI-Express, it is not compatible with AGP at all which is why new cards were needed for motherboards with PCI-Express. This was true for EISA/VESA - PCI, PCI - AGP and now AGP - PCI-Express. The slot changed to accomodate new techology and so the cards had to change with it. Similar events occurred with every standard in the computer industry and new products had to be used to match the new and more advanced hardware standards. There's your one-time answer. :-)

Nov 17, 2009 | Computers & Internet

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Adding the correct video card for compaq s4100nx


check whether your motherboard have the PCI EXPRESS slot or the AGP slot ...

actually PCI slots will be available in all pc s ... this PCI EXPRESS SLOT OR AGP SLOT will be smaller than the PCI slot ...

so correctly have a check....

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Apr 13, 2008 | Intel Motherboard

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Reply to my motherboard


It looks like your trying to install a PCI Graphics Adapter. If that is the case, I would try the PCI Graphics Adapter any Slot other than Slot 1 or Slot 2. That is unless, your PCI Graphics Adapter Card is a PCI Express, then that must be installed in Slot 1, if the Board supports it. If the PCI Graphics Adapter is a PCI-I Card then it must be installed in Slot 2.

Check AMD's site, they have or already implemented standards on their support chips. The standard, as I understand it, is Slot 1 - PCI Express, Slot 2 - PCI-I, if you're using those Slot for PCI Graphics Adapter.

It should be possible to use those Slots (1 & 2) for any PCI Cards that is not a PCI Graphics Adapter, be careful, I have not checked that out. Those do not handshake as Video Adapter, so the PCI card should not be thrown or overdriven, the PCI-Express and PCI-I, to my knowledge is only for Grahpics Adapters, should that be different, then Slot 1 for only PCI Express Cards and Slot 2 for only PCI-I Cards.

Me, for now, Slot 1 for Express, Slot 2 for PCI-I, and the rest of the Slot for all else. If your PCI Graphics Adapter is not an Express or PCI-I, install in any Slot other than Slot 1 or Slot 2.

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