Opinions on Motherboard

Sorry DeMoN, I should have said everything is posted in $NZ.

By today's currency conversion rates, US$1 = NZ$1.56

Cheers
Mike the Kiwi

So what is your criteria for knocking the celeron, I'm just curious?  I
happen to have a Celeron III, 1 ghz. processor, 256 MB. RAM, everything
works just fine, never any problems in the two years I've had.  I'll admit I
don't run games on it but for anything else I do, always has worked
perfectly.

Opinions on CPU's below as to the best performance-wise.

      AMD Duron - Socket A $ Inc GST
      AMD Duron 1.4GHz, Socket A, 133MHz FSB (266MHz), 128k-L1 + 64k-L2 Cache, with Heatsink/Fan $95.00
      AMD Duron 1.6GHz, Socket A, 133MHz FSB (266MHz), 128k-L1 + 64k-L2 Cache, with Heatsink/Fan $100.00
      AMD Athlon "XP" - Socket A $ Inc GST
      AMD Athlon XP2000+ (1.67GHz), Boxed Socket A, 133MHz FSB (266MHz), 128k-L1 + 256k-L2 Cache, with Heatsink/Fan $135.00
      AMD Athlon XP2200+ (1.80GHz), Boxed Socket A, 133MHz FSB (266MHz), 128k-L1 + 256k-L2 Cache, with Heatsink/Fan $150.00
      AMD Athlon XP2400+ (2.00GHz), Boxed Socket A, 133MHz FSB (266MHz), 128k-L1 + 256k-L2 Cache, with Heatsink/Fan $170.00
      AMD Athlon XP2500+ (1.83GHz, Barton), Boxed Socket A, 166MHz FSB (333MHz), 128k-L1 + 512k-L2 Cache, with Heatsink/Fan
$185.00
      AMD Athlon XP2600+ (1.917GHz, Barton), Boxed Socket A, 166MHz FSB (333MHz), 128k-L1 + 512k-L2 Cache, with Heatsink/Fan
$215.00
      AMD Athlon XP2700+ (2.167GHz), Boxed Socket A, 166MHz FSB (333MHz), 128k-L1 + 256k-L2 Cache, with Heatsink/Fan $240.00
      AMD Athlon XP2800+ (2.083GHz, Barton), Boxed Socket A, 166MHz FSB (333MHz), 128k-L1 + 512k-L2 Cache, with Heatsink/Fan
$300.00
      AMD Athlon XP3000+ (2.167GHz, Barton), Boxed Socket A, 166MHz FSB (333MHz), 128k-L1 + 512k-L2 Cache, with Heatsink/Fan
$440.00
      AMD Athlon XP3200+ (Barton), Boxed Socket A, 200MHz FSB (400MHz), 128k-L1 + 512k-L2 Cache, with Heatsink/Fan $665.00
      AMD Athlon64 - Socket 754 $ Inc GST
      AMD Athlon64 3200+ Socket754 CPU OEM (without Fan) $770.00
      AMD Athlon64 3200+ Socket754 CPU Boxed $895.00
      AMD Athlon64 FX51 & Opteron - Socket 940 $ Inc GST
      Call $0.00
      AMD Athlon "MP" - Dual Socket A $ Inc GST
      Call $0.00
      Intel Celeron - Socket 370 FC-PGA2 $ Inc GST
      Intel Celeron 1.3GHz, Socket 370 (FC-PGA2) with Heatsink/Fan $130.00
      Intel Celeron - Socket 478 $ Inc GST
      Intel Celeron 2.0GHz CPU, Socket 478, 100MHz FSB, 128k L2 Cache with Heatsink/Fan $145.00
      Intel Celeron 2.2GHz CPU, Socket 478, 100MHz FSB, 128k L2 Cache with Heatsink/Fan $150.00
      Intel Celeron 2.4GHz CPU, Socket 478, 100MHz FSB, 128k L2 Cache with Heatsink/Fan $145.00
      Intel Celeron 2.6GHz CPU, Socket 478, 100MHz FSB, 128k L2 Cache with Heatsink/Fan $195.00
      Intel Pentium 4 - Socket 478 $ Inc GST
      Intel Pentium 4 (Socket 478) 2.66GHz (533MHz FSB) CPU & Heatsink/Fan $350.00
      Intel Pentium 4 (Socket 478) 2.6GHz (800MHz FSB), Hyperthreading CPU & Heatsink/Fan $350.00
      Intel Pentium 4 (Socket 478) 2.8GHz (800MHz FSB), Hyperthreading CPU & Heatsink/Fan $430.00
      Intel Pentium 4 (Socket 478) 3.0GHz (800MHz FSB), Hyperthreading CPU & Heatsink/Fan $530.00

Having problems, and having poor performance versus the competition are two
different issues entirely. No one is claiming the Celeron is unreliable. Far
from it. It is very reliable, and runs business apps and non-demanding games
just fine. But when compared to an Athlon which blows it away for a similar
price, there's just no question which should be the choice when getting a
new system, or substantially upgrading an existing one.

"mark  mandel" <m @earthlink.net> wrote in

I don't have anything wrong with the Celeron III, based on the Pentium 3
line.  The Celeron 4's are crap.  The only advantage the P4 has is the
cache and higher FSB speeds.  The Celeron 4 doesn't have the high FSB, and
doesn't have much cache.  So it ends up stinking.

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Here are my personal ratings based on Performance, Quality, Tech
Support, failure rate
and compatibility. 10 = Best, 0 = DO NOT BUY (even if free):

 Abit ................. 10.0
 Asus .................. 9.5
 Gigabyte .............. 9.4
 Intel ................. 8.5
 Tyan .................. 8.0
 Epox .................. 6.8
 Soyo .................. 6.0
 SUPERMICRO ............ 5.1
 MSI ................... 5.0
 AOPEN ................. 4.0
 FIC ................... 3.1
 SHUTTLE ............... 2.9
 Gigabyte .............. 2.8 (4 Layer)
 IWILL ................. 2.0
 BIOSTAR ............... 2.0
 ECS ................... 1.8 (4 Layer)
 VPSD .................. No experience
 ALBATRON .............. No experience
 DFI ................... No experience

"Mike the Kiwi" <kiwiisland @hotmail.com> wrote in

They can use the same board.  There is little difference, they both stink.  
If you are going to go low end, get an Athlon XP.  If you are going for the
intel line, get a P4.  The celeron is a joke of a CPU.

Also is there any significant difference between the Intel Celeron 2.4GHz CPU and Intel Celeron 2.6GHz CPU, and could they
utilize the same mobo??

Cheers
Mike the Kiwi

"Mike the Kiwi" <kiwiisland @hotmail.com> wrote in

Don't get a celeron, it's a pile of shit.  A Celeron 2.4 ghz runs slower
than an Athlon XP 1600+ in about 75% of the benchmarks it was run through.