Basically every time I use the grill, eventually the electrics in the whole house trip! Is this a common problem with the Stoves 720EF? I am assuming there is a problem with the heating element, but before I replace it I would like to know if anyone else has had the same problem and how they solved it. Any advice greatly appreciated,
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Re: Grill trips my electrics on Stoves 720EF
I had problems with tripping and it was a faulty RCB on the consumer unit. But it wasn't just one appliance causing the problem.
Have you isolated it to the top or bottom oven. If it is the main oven, then it could be anything associated with the operation of that component, i.e. the oven control knob,the oven thermostat, the element, the element fan, the overheat thermostat all could have insulation that is breaking down that could cause this problem.
Before you go and buy anything and if you have the time and patience and confident enough and know what you are doing, I would remove the oven from the cupboard, take off the top and back covers, note the wiring for the element, take the leads off the element and run the oven with the element disconnected and see what happens. That should prove whether it is the element or anything else.
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It could be the top oven overheat thermostat going faulty. With something like this the only way to find it is to take the oven to bits and use a test meter to see what is causing the problem. Just to let you know, on the 720, the grill works independent of the timer/clock. So if both the top oven and grill are generating the problem, that is where I would start to look.
One blogger found that the insulation on one of the fans was breaking down when the oven warmed up. You are only going to find out what is actually happening with the oven out of the kitchen carcas and using the services of an electrican to test and see what is happening.
The clue will be when the rcd trips out. If everything is switched off on the cooker with the exception of the clock when you power it up and then it trips out, it could be in the wiring to the oven from the control switch and or the wiring in the oven. The only way you are going to find this is to take the oven out of the housing and test the wiring, isolating components until you find the problem.
First things first. The top oven lights ONLY come on when the top oven is switched on. Operating the grill DOES NOT turn the lights on. If you wish to see what you are grilling, you have to turn the top oven control knob on to its first position as well as turning the grill on.
Secondly, the grill only works when the door is open. The grill does not work when you shut the door. When you open and shut the door, you should be able to hear the microswitch operating. It is located in the right hand side of the cooker, between the inner and outer panels - you cannot see it. I haven't seen the switch first hand but they normally come with an arm that contacts the door mechanism and the door mechanism operating, causes the arm to move, which causes a button on the switch to move and make the circuit. It has been known for the arm on the microswitch to bend with use so it no longer works correctly.
If you have checked all above and you hear the switch operating, then it could have failed. They are quite common, so if you can't get one from STOVES, try espares or someone like Maplin or RadioSpares.
The get to the microswitch you have to take the oven out of the housing and then take the right hand panel off. You should then be able to see it and check its operation.
All the best
Not too sure of the model, but on the 720 the grill will not operate unless the door is down (microswitch control - you can hear it operate when the door is shut/opened) and the overheat device has not operated.(Cooling fan has to be running)
1) Isolate the unit by turning the power off at the main switch.
2) Remove appliance from housing unit.
a) When handling the appliance care should be taken to ensure the outer frame trim is not damaged.
b) The appliance is secured into the housing unit by 2 screws through the top corners of the front frame, open the doors and unscrew the 2 corner screws.
c) Grasp the bottom of the frame, pull forward and out onto a suitable surface.
3) Unscrew the top and rear panel securing screws and lift the panels clear.
4) From the rear of the appliance, pull off the 4 (top) grill element leads and the earth lead.
5) From inside the oven unscrew the 2 screws from the grill mounting plate.
The above is from the Handbook. I assume from point 5 the element is then free to be removed. reverse the procedure to fit the new element.
If you want a copy of the Handbook, then I will need an email address for you.
No, there is no reset button. However, the grill will only work when the front is down as there is a microswitch which operates to provide connectivity when it is in this position. This is to stop the grill overheating. The switch could have gone faulty.
Does the top oven work ok?
When you operate the grill there are two options, part or full. Are they both failing? Does the cooling fan switch on when either grill is operated?
The grills appear to be independant of each other. Does the oven still work and the oven light come on?
Depending on your answer it could be that the Top Oven Switch has gone faulty. The Grill Regulator and the Switch work together on the top oven. To get at both you will need to take the top of the oven off.