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I have a new Carrier HVAC system with a fancy EDGE thermostat. When I turn the system OFF at the thermostat, and set the fan to AUTO, hours later I will find that the fan is running and it's setting on the thermostat is now ON. How can I permanently turn off the fan when the system is off?

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  • fixya196 Aug 26, 2010

    Thanks. I understand and this indeed will turn the fan OFF.
    However, it's too bad this has to be done. I like the fact that I can program the fan to run when the thermostat is not calling for heat or cooling when in those modes. But the thermostat should turn off the fan altogether when one turns the system to off; without having to go through this programming exercise each time.
    Someone at Carrier wasn't thinking when they designed this thermostat. During the summer, I routinely turn the HVAC system off when it's not needed. This should shut everything off and not require a programming change.

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1. Open the door. 2. Press and hold the buttons underneath the heat and cool setpoints simultaneously (the two bottom buttons on the right) until the screen displays the reset reminders and 01 in the lower right corner. 3. Press the up arrow button until 01 changes to 07 with OF (fan mode) next to it. 4. To turn the fan on, press the rightmost lower button then press the up arrow button until the screen displays ON. To turn the fan off, press the rightmost lower button then press the down arrow button until the screen displays OF (off). 5. Press the done button. 6. Close the door.

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  • fixya196 Aug 26, 2010

    Thanks. I understand and this indeed will turn the fan OFF. However, it's too bad this has to be done. I like the fact that I can program the fan to run when the thermostat is not calling for heat or cooling when in those modes. But the thermostat should turn off the fan altogether when one turns the system to off; without having to go through this programming exercise each time. Someone at Carrier wasn't thinking when they designed this thermostat. During the summer, I routinely turn the HVAC system off when it's not needed. This should shut everything off and not require a programming change.

  • HVACPro Aug 27, 2010

    Using the hold feature should work for this.

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Getting the wiring connections correct to the terminals in the back plate is essential. Understanding better which colored wires do what functions for your particular brand and model of HVAC gear proves essential, too: "That's the rub!"

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Unfortunately, many of Youtube's demonstrations from HVAC pros prove merely general info concerning HVAC systems--these may prove somewhat useful: Being merely general info, they're often not specific enough always for particular units, though. (This proves keenly true concerning thermostat wiring.)

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Unless you know your system's peculiar wiring very well (that is, you're likely an HVAC tech), don't try to connect a Comm wire to another terminal on the back plate for the 44134--you'll likely ruin your thermostat (perhaps along with some other HVAC electronics): You may need then to get an HVAC tech out, after all!

As indicated above, don't merely "match" wiring colors (as a woman might for interior decorating or remodeling)!: This proves a continuing and overly common, comical mistake! Prove instead somewhat skeptical of thermostat wiring colors! A Biblical scripture applies: "Be as wise as serpents!" Take your time to get wiring connections right!

I've noted that the 44134 unit relies totally upon 2 AA batteries (not supplied in the package)--those must be in good working order and oriented correctly--otherwise, your thermostat and HVAC system won't function. Furthermore, the control unit may be easily removed from the back plate--thus allowing "easy-chair" configuration--again, HVAC and fan functions will halt immediately--the connected unit proves necessary for continued function.

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I glean that Honeywell units may prove generally more easily configurable than Hunter units. Nonetheless, configuring Hunter units proves far from impossible, though. Configuring Hunter thermostats prove perhaps not as "intuitive.": The formal user manuals provided by Hunter thus may prove more keenly necessary for their thermostats' configuration.

Getting personal help online from Hunter may prove somewhat difficult (that may have changed recently). A few years ago, I called customer support: A woman answered my wiring question very satisfactorily. (I noted a jumper wire connect to the terminals of my old manual thermostat--she indicated that the jumper proves unnecessary in Hunter units.) Hunter phone support hours prove somewhat limited--they're similar to traditional office hours.

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