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Kenmore 110.84821300 My dryer runs for so long, and never seems to get hot. Clothes smell bad, and they take forever to dry. At least an hour and a half. Every once in a while you'll also hear a rythymic rubbing sound. Any ideas? Any parts I could try to fix this myself?

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  • BeckyA6 Apr 10, 2008

    No, not smelling like it's burning, just smells like the clothes are warm and just being tossed around. Dirty smelling, almost musty. The temp never gets past warm. The sounds are like a metal to metal sound, and it's like the drum is rubbing at a specific time in the rotation. Also, the light inside the dryer won't come on. It did for a week or so, when I replaced the bulb, then it's out again. I replaced the bulb again, and it made no difference. My main problem is it taking so long to dry/no heat, but figured the other problems may be related.

  • BeckyA6 Apr 10, 2008

    Alright, thank you for your helpful reply. I took the top, back and front toe panel off and found just massive amounts of lint. Cleaned all areas that I could reach, and even by the heating element/coils there was dark brown almost rust colored lint, that I'm assuming was burnt. Cleaned around that as well as I could. Took some tangled hair and lint out of the rollers, and checked all the felt seals and belts. Watched the dryer run for a while, and the rubbing sound just sounds like the felt rubbing the wheels now, in other words, normal. The heating element looks to be lit most of the way down the coils, and staying hot and red. The air coming out of the backside of the dryer (I took it away from the wall and am just letting it run into the room) feels forceful, plenty of air, just almost lukewarm. Also, running it on "normal" cycle, it said 39 minutes, then jumped up to 47 after a couple minutes. So at least the sensor is working, just not in the direction of time I wish it would.

    Side note, the venting goes into the wall, down to the basement, about 20 feet along the basement ceiling in the floor joist, then straight outside. When it was connected, I could feel air coming out the vent ouside, so I'd assume there is nothing blocking that airway, aside from the fact that this possible solution doesn't speak to the fact that the clothes never feel warm while in drying mode, and taking a lot longer.

    Any other suggestions?

  • BeckyA6 Apr 10, 2008

    I ran the dryer for the full dry cycle for the load of laundry, and it did dry. I had it set on normal, and usually it runs for a long long time, and the clothes end up damp or moist feeling. This time the clothes were totally dry, but man my house sure was musty from the dryer vent not being vented correctly. Now my problem is how to get the pipe to be in the hole to correctly vent, not crimp, and stay in the hole. The machines are SO big, and heavy, and in such a tight space. I will have to do that once the washer is empty, as it's too heavy to move and vent the dryer correctly while it's in position. What an obstacle. Thank you for your input, and patience. I really hope getting all that lint out of the back, underneath, through the tubes and fan, and off the heating element helps.

    PS After I put it all back together, the lint filter acts like it doesn't want to slide down into position without a little force. Suggestions?

  • howlingwolf May 11, 2010

    Sounds like the elmet is going or the thermoast control is gone as for the smell if it smells like rubber burning and the dryer makes a load noise the breaks or going or gone thats if the dryer does not want to stop when the door is opened. if the smell is not that then it maybe the drum motor. anyway it does not sound good if it was me I would not you's it, maybe catch fire would have a repair man look it over or buy a new dryer. good luck.

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The rythmic rubbing sound you are hearing could be coming from a few sources. It could be drum support rollers that require lubrication, bulkhead screws that have come loose, the drum seal not seated properly, or a silencer plate that has come off the compartment side and is rubbing on the drum.

First, look inside the dryer along the seam where the drum meets the front and rear of the dryer. You should not see any part of the felt drum seal protruding inside the drum. Sometimes the seal starts to come loose or becomes misaligned and sticks through inside the drum. This will cause thumping and excessive noise. If you have anything caught in the drum seal (i.e., a screw, change, etc.) this can also cause excessive noise.

Remove the dryer top panel and start the dryer and watch for anything obvious rubbing on the drum. The top comes off by removing the screws in the rear and sliding the panel back, then up. (CAUTION: DO NOT get your hands around the drum while it is rotating and any of the electrical connections). Look for any vibration from from the rear bulkhead (this is the back wall of the dryer where the drum rides against). Sometimes the screws holding the bulkhead to the cabinet come loose.

Another thing to look for is a metal silencer plate that is usually mounted along the side panels. This plate is glued on and is used for noise reduction. Sometimes it comes off and will rub against the drum.

If everything checks out good, remove the lower panel under the door by removing the screws under the bottom edge (HINT: Placing a small block of wood under the front feet of the dryer can make this easier). The panel will drop down then come off. If it gets stuck, tap on either side to knock it loose. Start the dryer again and look/listen for any noises coming from the drum supports. The drum rides on the drum supports and they require periodic cleaning and lubrication.

The drum light could be a lamp socket problem and/or wiring. Make sure you are using the correct bulb as well. I believe the bulb is only supposed to be a 25W bulb. This isn't related to any long dry time problem.

The heat problem could be directly associated to clogged dryer ducting. If the dryer is full of lint when you open it, you will have to thoroughly clean the vent ducting and interior cabinet. NOTE: This is a fire hazard!

Some things to try: Remove the dryer exhaust hose and start the dryer. The air leaving the back of the dryer should be forceful and hot (about 140 degrees F). If the air flow is weak and cool, you have a clog INSIDE your dryer. If the air flow is normal, check the vent ducting from where it leaves your dryer to where it exits your home. The dryer ducting should be cleaned routinely and kept clear of obstructions.

Your heat problem may not be a component at all. Double check your dryer interior and ducting and let me know what you find. I hope this helps you.

Posted on Apr 10, 2008

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    Jeff Rockwell Apr 10, 2008

    The air coming directly out of the dryer should be forceful. As I mentioned earlier, the air exhaust directly from the back of the dryer should be about 140 degrees F. This can also depend on the heat setting you have it on. You may have to let the dryer run for a few minutes to achieve the proper temperature. The heating element should glow, and cycle on and off.



    The accumulation of lots of lint inside the dryer is not normal. You have an obstruction somewhere that is causing the lint to accumulate inside the dryer. The rule of thumb when it comes to dryer venting is: The SHORTER and STRAIGHTER the vent line the BETTER. Any significant bend or crimp in the vent line can cause the lint to back up. This can also be caused by a vent line that is too long. In addition, if you are in the habit of pushing the dryer all the way up against the wall, you may inadvertly be crimping the dryer vent hose closed. It's best to leave about a foot of clearance so the vent hose does not get crushed. The vent line should also be the semi-rigid metal type. The plastic hose has been known to crush easily and can melt if it gets too hot. Not to mention, rodents can chew through and build nests. I have personally found blocked dryer vents that were full of mice. The intial symptoms were the same as yours. This particulary true with vents that pass through basements, crawl spaces and attics. Yes, the brown colored lint is an indication of burning. This can cause a house fire if gone unchecked.



    You mentioned that you checked the vent line, but did you check the air blower area? This is the area under the lint screen. Lint can accumulate there as well, and cause poor air flow. Since you are also exhausting moisture in the air from the dryer, any restricted areas will resist air flow and cause lint to begin to stick to the inside walls of the vent hose due to condensation. In your second paragraph you mentioned that your clothes were "dirty smelling, almost musty and the temp. never gets past warm". That is probably a symptom of lint smoldering and being fed through the dryer drum and poor air flow. You need to correct any potential air flow problems before you can assume you have a heat related problem. I'm trying to assist you in avoiding the need to purchase parts you may not require.



    If in doubt, try running a load with the dryer hose disconnected to see if you get better results. If your results do not change, and you have thoroughly checked the dryer interior, then I would suspect a possible component failure. Post back and let me know.

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    Jeff Rockwell Apr 10, 2008

    I wouldn't run the dryer for long periods of time while venting inside your home. As you mentioned, it does heat the house up and raises the humidity level.



    As far as reconnecting the dryer vent correctly, it's hard for me to tell without seeing what you have. If this vent is running straight down through the floor, or wall, I would recommend a flange piece mounted to the wall or floor, that the dryer hose connects to. This would alleviate the hose from getting crushed.



    Look along the seams that the lint filter slides into. You may have some lint or debris stuck somewhere causing it not to slide in correctly.

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