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II have a switch and dimmer and the three wires from fan and light, no instructions how install it.

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  • Rich Jun 05, 2010

    Please describe all the wires in the wall box .. from the house, the fan , and the switch.. Thanks .. Rich

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You will have power coming in through a black wire and white wire on the cable set that does not go out to your fan. The black will connect to your switch to power it. Then there will be two other terminals on your switch one for your fan and one for your light. The red and black that go out to your fan and light are connected to these two terminals. The whites get connected together. If you mix the red and black up and the switches are controlling the the wrong things, simply switch the black and red wires. (Note: If by three wires to your fan you meant black, white and bare copper this dual switch cannot be used, as bare copper is simply a ground wire and cannot be used as a constant electrical conductor.)

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