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Wire from breaker to a dual switches on same switch one for ceiling fan one for outside light

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Wire from the breaker goes to the LINE side with the break-off tie connecting the two screw terminals on that side (common feed). The light "HOT" and fan "HOT" wires will be connected to the LOAD side of the switch. If the neutral (white) wires are present in this box, they should be joined together (wirenut). I prefer connecting the light to the upper switch terminal and the fan to the lower switch terminal since the light is an outside light and I presume that the switch is located next to a door or entry.

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I am trying to install a ceiling fan and from the ceiling I have a copper white and black wire. Now from the fan itself there is a black blue and white wire. Not sure where to connect the copper wire.


Good question, proper wiring is a crucial virtue that needs to be one hundred percent accurate.

Three wires showing from the ceiling lamp fixture harness, positive, negative, and ground.

The negative wire is the white wire,
The Hot wire (positive) is the wire of brighter color than known negative,
220V AC (alternating current) home wiring to(" duplex outlet switch, GFI switch, single/dual pole light switch, lamp fixtures,") the Hot wire or lead, is normally Black, the lighter color, or White is neutral or neggative,
Neutral wire (completes circuit) allows current flow to continue through to other parts of house, Alternating current.

The Ground wire is usually wrapped in green color, or unmarked copper.

The copper wire from the ceiling will need to be grounded to the metal bracket on the new light fixture, a gold or silver screw, sometimes tagged with green, is the proper grounding location, Any place on Metal not attached to ceiling bracket, Ground should be attached to metal on fan,

White wire from Fan is neutral, Negative.
Black wire from Fan is Hot Wire, Positive,
If Blue wire from Fan is Not Manufacture spliced, Meaning no Copper is exposed, Wire is not used, Blue wire is NOT ground,
If Fan has a light, Voltage from Hot Black wire will supply both light and fan functions,

Safety First.
flip off breaker switch to the room fan is being installed.

Doubble Check
Black^Black wire connection is secure.

White^White neutral wire connection is secure.

Ground is fastened securely to metal or wrapped under a screw.

Using splice caps is recomended, The plastic shell encloses the wire connection ensuring No stray copper is exposed, limits possibility of cross wiring.

Google the brand of fan being installed, and Check wire color code, and wiring diagram, Info good to have, and checking twice will only guarantee Lamp Fixture Install Well Done.

(Blue wire may be there for installing multiple ceiling fixtures in a loop circuit, so all controlled by same light switch.)


Enjoy Your New Fan,

Jos
Thoughts&Comments, encouraged jtobias1020@gmail.com

Mar 26, 2017 | Dryers

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Ceiling fan and light not working after short trip.looking for wall switch,gfi,or breaker.no wire ring diagram


Ceiling fan and light Bruce, Check the attached links,instruction and guides, Good luck
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Mar 23, 2016 | Dryers

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Why my Hunter Ceiling Fan does not work?


Its unlikely that the fan is on a separate feed from the breaker box than the rest of the outlets in your room but you never know. It would not hurt to check all of your breakers. If the fan and its light are controlled by the same wall switch then the wall switch may have went bad. Within the fan there are separate wires for the fan and the light so both of them would not go out at the same time. It makes more sense that the problem is at your wall switch.

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I got my craftmade ceiling fan about 10 years ago, the fan has now stopped working but the light works, I changed out the switch on the wall that was not the problem sometimes I will turn on the wall...


pretty sure its the 3 speed pull chain switch.$4.50 to $6.00 at home depot or lowes or hardware/elecrtical store.
how 2 replace switch.
1.turn off breaker to fan/fan lights,probably that whole room.
may need extension cord & floor lamp from closest room with electric, so u can see.
2.need 6ft step ladder to get up to fan.look see how to get to fan speed switch. speed switch unscrews from outside but body of switch is inside fan cover.
3. need to take fan off ceiling to replace switch.
4.switch has 4 wires, power feed into switch and 3 selector
wires that go to high speed winding,medium speed winding and low speed winding.
speed selector switch has 4 settings, off, low,medium,high.

about ac circuits , black wire is 120 volts, hot.
white wires are neutral return wire. an ac voltmeter will read 120volts ac with its red and black probes between black,hot and
white,neutral.
white= neutal=ground which is green. If wired properly and polarity was observed, white and green ground wires both connect to the neutral ground buss bar in the circuit breaker panel box and are the same electrical point.

black wires,and the selector handle getting the hot juice into the fan and white returns the used juice to the circuit breaker panel box.
If polarity was observed, you can touch white and ground without getting a shock.
black will jolt or even fry you dead, so make sure the breaker to the fan is off, so that the circuit is de-energized before you touch it.

PLEASE NOTE--- make drawing on paper of what color wires from the fan motor go to what color wires on the selector switch.
If the switch has 4 black wires, you need to put different color electrical tape as a marker, on each wire. or ,to be cheap, you can use white paper,scissors to cut paper,and pencil and write 1,2,3,4 on the paper and tape to the 4 switch wires.

that is: wire # 1 from the switch goes to the black wire from the wall--ac hot
wire #2 from switch goes to yellow fan motor winding,
wire # 3 from switch goes to orange wire from fan motor

wires are specific and NOT interchangeable.

go to www.ehow.com & type into search engine box
how to replace fan motor speed selector switch.

Oct 12, 2013 | Craftmade International CQ52 Ceiling Fan

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I have a single pole switch that currently controls a bedroom outlet. i am installing a fan and light in the bedroom. i have a new triple switch that i want to control the existing outlet, the fan and the...


Wiring is not fully described: Location of hot wire and neutral wire from breaker box are unknown.
If Hot wire arrives in ceiling box first, the switch box will not have white neutral wires that are twisted together and covered with wire nut. Neutrals will be in ceiling box.

What is known: You are replacing single pole switch attached to one 14-2 wire going to light.
You are replacing light with a fan-light and replacing switch with a 3-pole TM8111 switch.
You have replaced 14-2 wire with 12-3 wire.

TM8111 wiring shows following link:
http://waterheatertimer.org/images/TM8111-switch-wiring-500.jpg
Fan pull-chain wiring shows following link:
http://waterheatertimer.org/images/Fan-motor-1-344.jpg
Assume neutrals in ceiling box.
Assume Hot wire in ceiling box: Connect 12-3 black wire to black Hot wire. Connect 12-3 white wire to black wire on light. Connect 12-3 red to red wire on fan.
White neutral from fan and white neutral form light connect to other white neutral wires and covered with wire nut.
Wiring at switch:
Black Hot wire from ceiling box connects to A COM terminal.
White wire to ceiling light connects to A SP2
Red wire to fan connects to A SP1

Jun 21, 2011 | Pass & Seymour Legrand TM8111 Three Single...

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I have power to the fan because the fan works but i can't get the lights to turn on. It had been working earlier today and then it blew the breaker in the house and now the lights won't turn on but the...


If the fan works then you are getting power again to the fan so that's OK. The lights are wired off of the same wires that power the fan normally so that means the problem is in the light assembly. Now there are different ways that ceiling fans are wired and you will need to figure out which you have as it is important and you will need to know which wires do what.
Usually black wires are used for fan, blue is used for the light kit, white wire is used for the common or neutral for both, while green is used for mechanical ground. This is very important!
One way to wire a ceiling fan is for the power to be directly wired to the fan, which is usually hot. The black and blue wires are connected to each other through the hot feed and pull strings control the lights and fan.
Or a single switch powers the ceiling fan and the light. The black and blue wires are both connected to the black wire which is the one that is switched. So when you flip the switch both the light and fan are turned on.
There's also a method in which two switches are separately wired to the ceiling fan and the fan light, with a 3-way conductor linked from the switch box. The black wire or that of the fan is linked to the fan wire while the light wire is connected to the switched wire from light switch. Meanwhile the white and ground wires are linked to their respective wires from the switch.
Now considering you blew the breaker odds are you have a short in the light kit wiring or the switch itself. Either way, turn off the power! Then remove the light kit by taking out the screws holding it on the ceiling fan. Then look to see if anything has come loose or black scorch marks anywhere. Now the problem area should be obvious. If you cannot see the problem then you should stop right there and get a replacement light kit. They are easy to replace and inexpensive. Leaving a shorted kit on the fan has the capacity to make the entire fan hot and provide a very painful if not fatal shock to anyone touching the fan body if the breaker doesn't blow.
An excellent site with pictures to do this is located here:http://www.managemylife.com/mmh/projects/ceiling_fan
Hope this helped you.

Feb 20, 2011 | Hunter Ceiling Fan - 2053

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Both the fan and the light stop working. What are the first things to try?


Good way of asking for help!-- Thank you!

First make sure the circuit is not tripped at the Circuit Breaker--
(Are other lights on the same circuit still working OK?)

You will need to verify which breaker controls the voltage to this fan--
and you will need to turn the breaker OFF, while dismantling the fixtures.

Can you communicate with someone at the Breaker Box, while you work safely?
Have them turn the circuit on when you are safe and ready -- and reading voltage, etc.

Next-- Do you have a dimmer switch, (or just a wall switch) on the wall?
Do you know if the power is supplied to the ceiling, thru that wall switch?
If so, check to see if the dimmer or the switch has power coming in and out at the wall, and heading up the ceiling supply wire.

If the power is supplied at the ceiling, then you are going to have to get a safe ladder, and remember Ladder safety rules!

The tough part, is getting the heavy fan and light assembly safely down, where you can make some voltage readings at the supply circuit wires at the ceiling--

Maybe you have found a loose wire nut by now?
Or maybe a defective dimmer or wall switch?

Or what are you observing at the junction box, and the fan motor now?

Tell us more-- and we'll see if we can help yo to the next step.

Mack B,

Jan 18, 2011 | Hunter Ceiling Fan Control Switch

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I just bought a switch to control both fan speed and light control (dual switch) i hooked it up every thing worked fine. then to realize that the outlets that follow dont work. just as a clue on the...


The key seems to be that you changed wiring in the ceiling box.

I suggest you make a drawing of the wires before and after. Track the route that the Hot wire takes.

The key question is this: Does Hot wire from breaker box arrive in the ceiling box first? Or does it arrive in wall box first?

I think Hot from breaker arrives in wall box first. And from there Hot wire goes to ceiling box ... and from ceiling box the hot wire goes to other plugs in room. If this is true, you will be one wire short for installing fan control switch.

I always make a drawing of existing wires before starting, so I can put it back the way it was. It sounds like you got a good handle on which wire goes where.

We used to solve the one-wire-short problem by making a simple project bigger. Figure out which direction ceiling joist run. See if you can slide fish line from fan ceiling box over to wall. If that works. Over at the wall, chop small hole in ceiling so you can feed wire up to fish line. Pull wire over to ceiling box. Next, staple other end of wire along ceiling over to location above wall box. Chop another small hole so you can feed wire down to wall box. And then install beautiful crown molding to hide the mess, and paint the room so you need new furniture.

Oct 02, 2010 | Electrical Supplies

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Tried to install a ceiling fan to replace a dimming light chandelier.......light on fan and fan itself works but only by the pull chains....it will not turn off or on by the wall switch that controlled the...


Trip the breaker and verify that the fan/light will not operate. If tripping the breaker kills the circuit and flipping the wall switch would not, the switch is probably bypassed. Place the wall switch to "off" with the breaker tripped to the "off" position as well. Gain access to your wiring connections at the fan. Look for a single (black) wire that is not connected. This should be your hot return from the wall switch Make your fan/light connections to this wire. (Are you sure that the ground wire that you connected is a ground? If it is, it should be bare copper with no insulation). Your white (neutral) connection to the three white wires should be fine. If you don't find a single wire in the ceiling box, call on an electrician. Regards --WoobieDog--

Jul 07, 2009 | Hampton Bay 46056 Callaway II Ceiling Fan

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Wiring a ceiling fan w/light


To add to red54's comments:

This is what I believe you have:

- one source in the ceiling box (black & white)

- one donwline circuit in ceiling box going to another wall/ceiling box (black&white)

- on switch wire in ceiling box coming from your wall switch (black & white) -- this is the white wire which will be hot when the switch is truned on

Here's how it should be connected:

- all 3 blacks in ceiling box connected together -- no other wires in this bundle

- white wire (which is hot when switched) coming from switch connects to the black/blackwhite fan wires

- connect all reamining white wires together in bundle

- connect all ground wires together

It's that simple. Trick is figuring out, of the three cables in the ceiling box, which is source, which is downline, which is switch.
Maybe red54's procedure can help you figure that out.

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