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My washing machine fills with water and has an aggitation cycle, but does not pump out water or spin. It does not have a belt or pulley. The lid switch fell apart when trying to look at it. Is this the problem? How can you tell if it is this compared to the timer or water pump. I do not hear any motor humming when I put knob in the position for draining or spinning. Thanks, Joyce

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  • joycemermini Jun 02, 2010

    Thanks for the info. I found the videos extremely helpful!

  • joycemermini Jun 02, 2010


    Jun 02, 2010 - Thanks for info. I do have the # for the switch and where to buy it. I want to ask about a lack of motor sound or humming when I turn knob to drain and spin. Is this an indication of somehting bigger than the switch? Also, do you have a video on by-passing the switch to make the spin cycle work? Lastly, the washer is a Kenmore, Stylemaster #909957-12-15 years old. When do I say the washer is done?
    Thanks,
    Joyce

  • joycemermini Jun 02, 2010

    Thanks. I thought of one more thing. If it is the switch, would the machine still fill with water and go through aggitation cycle?

    Joyce

  • joycemermini Jun 04, 2010

    Hi Phil,

    I did the switch by-pass and was able to get the drain and spin cycle to work. So I replaced the switch and all is well in the world. Thank you for your help!!! The videos were especially helpful.



    Another question concerning a clothes dryer. Someone noticed a slight smell of gas in the laundry room. Put soapy water on gas connection and noticed some bubbles. The pipes were tightened and still there is a little leak. Could I shut off gas, clean all parts with goop cleaner and start all over with fresh pipe joint compound? Let me know what you think.

    Thanks,

    Joyce

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Hi Joyce,

Yes indeed you are on the right path. The washer is designed so that the spin cycle will not work with the lid open, so if the switch breaks or fails the machine thinks the lid is open and will not spin.

To verify this you can bypass the switch electrically and see if the machine runs. I do not know your level of electrical expertise so please ask any questions of me where I am not being clear, and forgive me if I am going into too much detail.

I am going to attach a link to a website that has a couple great videos showing how to take the console apart and replace the lid switch, because I do not know your exact model number I can't say which one pertains to yours but it will be covered.

To bypass the lid switch first unplug the power cord from the wall (safety first).

Lift the console(videos will explain this), that will expose the lid switch harness connector, unplug this connector and connect a jumper wire between the two outside terminals on the wire harness you just took off. making sure the jumper is not touching metal or you, test to see if the spin works.

Since you know this switch is broken already it may be wise to replace this without doing the jumper test if you are not comfortable with it.

If you could send me the complete model number from the tag that is visible with the lid open I can find the part number you need.

Let me know if you have questions. ..... Phil

Lid Switch Videos

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  • joycemermini Jun 02, 2010

    Thanks for info. I do have the # for the switch and where to buy it. I want to ask about a lack of motor sound or humming when I turn knob to drain and spin. Is this an indication of somehting bigger than the switch? Also, do you have a video on by-passing the switch to make the spin cycle work? Lastly, the washer is a Kenmore, Stylemaster #909957-12-15 years old. When do I say the washer is done?

    Thanks,

    Joyce

  • Philip Jun 02, 2010

    Hi Joyce,

    As far as the motor not making any sound during drain or spin: This would be normal with a bad lid switch. The lid switch will disconnect the power to the motor so if were making a noise the switch would not be bad.

    When to say enough is enough: That is a very hard call to make, typically when the repair cost is over 1/2 the cost of a new machine I recommend looking strongly at a new machine. One thing to know is that new machines are more energy efficient so will cost you less to operate. With these energy savings comes a price, you do not not use as much water, so how you do laundry, types of detergents will change, so if you are very comfortable with what you have, that should weigh into your decision. I know I am dancing around your question but there is no real good answer for this one, I am biased because I am in the service and repair field.

    I will look for something here that at least has a picture of bypassing the switch for you and send it along in a bit or a note.. so stand by for that.

    Phil


  • Philip Jun 02, 2010

    Hi Joyce,

    Here is link to a couple of pictures, it is showing the washer with the cabinet off, you can do it with the cabinet on and the console up.

    They are using a piece of wire that is 'stripped bare' on the ends exposing the copper, and putting that piece of wire into the outside wires in the harness connector. If I run across a better one tonight I will forward on. Click the next links on the website to advance frames (not exactly a video, but if you click fast......) sorry a little web humor

    Take care,

    Phil

    Lid Switch Bypass


  • Philip Jun 02, 2010

    Depending on the model most of the machines will fill and some will agitate with the lid up, but none will drain and spin.



  • Philip Jun 04, 2010

    Hi Joyce,



    I am glad the washer worked out for you.



    Depending on the type of gas connection you may be able follow your proceedures. If it is a pipe fitting then yes. If it is a compression fitting or flare fitting clean them and do not use any compond on the threads.



    Typically taking apart, cleaning and resealing works well. Check good with bubbles and clean off any soap reside when finished.

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hi there,
If your washer won't spin, check these:

It doesn't pump or spin
It pumps, but doesn't spin
It spins only with the lid closed
It doesn't pump or spin
If it doesn't pump water out or spin, check to see if the motor is running, then proceed as follows:


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To check the pulley, remove the pump from the washer and try to rotate the pulley manually. If it
doesn't turn freely--if it's frozen or stiff--replace it. If the pump belt is broken or looks quite worn,
replace it--but be sure to check the pump pulley before you change the belt.


* If the motor isn't running, the lid switch may be defective. If so, the washing machine can't spin
and may not function at all. The switch is inside the washing machine main housing near the
door frame. Often you have to raise or open the top or front of the washing machine to get to the
switch. If it's defective, you need to replace it.


It pumps, but doesn't spin
If your washer pumps out the water but doesn't spin, check these:

* The lid switch may be defective. If it is, the washing machine doesn't spin. The switch is inside
the washing machine main housing near the door frame. Often you have to raise or open the top
or front of the washing machine to get to the switch. If it's defective, you need to replace it.


* The motor coupler may be broken. Many Whirlpool®-manufactured washers use a small,
relatively inexpensive motor coupling. It's plastic and rubber and is mounted to the shaft of the
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* A belt may be broken. Many washing machines have one or two belts. If a belt is broken or
badly worn, you need to replace it with a genuine belt from the manufacturer. (Some washing
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* The clutch may be worn. If your washer is a GE, it may use a clutch to come up to the proper
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* The drive motor may be defective. Many washer brands use a reversing motor. For agitation
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burn out in one direction and continue to operate in the other. If this happens, you need to replace
the entire motor.


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