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We are trying to install a water softener system for the entire house. We have two water heaters in the attic. Where is the best place to install the water softener system? Is it o.k. to install it with two water heaters in the house?

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My brother had a system installed a few years ago, and he had it installed in his garage, which worked out well. You want to have it installed somewhere where there is easy access, if possible, since you will have to add chemicals occasionally. He only has one water heater, but there is no reason you cannot install it with two heaters- all you need to do is make sure the water softener device goes between the main inlet line and the lines to the water heaters and rest of the house, of course. This is about all I can say, without knowing more about the house layout, but hope it helps, and good luck- they can really be a blessing in certain areas of the country, and will make a big difference in the quality of the water, for drinking as well as everything else.

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Had three 50-gal American Standard water heaters installed Dec. 2009 Two upstairs in attic, one downstairs at ground level. Attic location used because heaters being replaced were up there. Upstairs...


Plumber is right.
Problem is not amount of air in attic. Problem is how hot the air is.
Oxygen molecules separate apart in very hot air and pilot light goes out since there is not enough oxygen density to support combustion.
http://waterheatertimer.org/images/Water-heater-in-attic-800.jpg
http://waterheatertimer.org/pdf/Attic-Ventilation-and-Pilot-Outage-in-Gas%20Water-Heaters.pdf

More ventilation is needed.
Plumber is not ventilating expert, and not responsible for attic ventilation that builder failed to install. Plumber should do a survey of location before installation to make sure gasoline vapors are not stored nearby, but summer attic ventilation is gray area until more general-public folks become aware of problem. Hotter summers temperatures will spread that information.

Hire local home center to install roof vents AND soffit vents.
Note: You also need soffit vents.
Remember a vent on the roof is like sucking air out of a coke bottle. The roof vent is no good unless air can also enter the attic from another vent located in the soffit.

Another solution is electric water heater for very hot locations.
Or install solar-assisted water heater.
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I have culligan house water softner. after i changed my hot water heater my softner stopped working. I dont have a manual to check. any suggestions?


Unless the softener was bypassed when the water heater went in, installing a water heater has no bearing on the softener working or not. Is it unplugged?
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Two years ago I changed the size of my Culligan holding tank under the sink to a bigger unit and at the same time put in a culligan water softener that also removes chlorine. I also changed the culligan...


hi.
im a plumber and i have seen it meny times befor. relax its calk thats in the water, its harmless and most gps wil tell u iets good for you lol
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We have a gas water heater but no hot water. What happened? Our house was built in 1994. Don't know the make - It's in the attic. Do we need to replace the thing? Is it safe? Thanks


gas appliances in the attic are never safe.

a water heaters life is 7 to 10 years. if maintained, lifespan can be a lot longer.

would need to know what brand, and model number to help repair, but most likely the thermocouple needs to be replaced.

I would actually relocate out of your attic. the only water heaters I install in attics are electric.

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I have a water softner and when it is in service i lose pressure in my house. when it is not in service the water pressure is fine. what could be the problem and how can i fix this problem????


To try and answer your question I will assume firstly that 'in service' means in normal operating mode - not in re-generation.

All water softeners have a limited throughput of water. In other words the volume of water that can pass through the system and be softened in the process is limited by the size of the vessel. If water passes through at too fast a rate then there would not be sufficient time for the water to undergo the ion exchange process that softens the water. Therefore the softener constricts the flow to a level which provides satisfactory operation.

If your plumbing system is taking water directly through the softener then the pressure will be limited by the maximum throughput of the softener. The only way to solve this is to install a higher capacity softener or, as is common in the UK, to feed a cold water storage tank from the softener so that pressure is not affected.

If you mean that 'in service' is when the device is re-generating, then the problem is a different one. When the device re-generates, it switches the water flow to bypass the softener within the unit. Therefore the pressure should not be affected unless the bypass is partially constricted. This bypass valve is an integral part of the softener valve assembly, so this would have to be checked by a competent service engineer.

If you can provide additional information by posting a comment I will do my best to help further. If you do so please identify the brand and model of your softener and try to describe how it is plumbed in to your supply.

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We have a fairly new Kenmore Elite front loading washing machine. We also have rather hard water here in Indiana. Problem is, water softeners do not seem to work. The manual says that the liquid water...


Hello, I would like to help with your dilemma. First, adding a Liquid or Powder Softening agent to the Wash or Rinse Cycle of a Washing Machine when using extremely Hard Water as the source is trying to treat the symptom and not fix the cause. These pre-packaged Softening agents are filled with Salts that attempt to mix with the Hard Water Minerals and Neutralize them so the soaps can saturate the water and supposedly clean the clothes more effectively. However, the Hard Water Minerals are still trapped in the water supply with these Salts because they are not removed. And, the manufacturers of these Salt Based Softening Agents have no idea of what level of Hardness (Calcium and Magnesium Carbonates) exist from City to City, State to State, or in private Well water supplies. So, if they provide 200 parts per million of Salts in their package, but the Water Hardness is 600 parts per million of Calcium and Magnesium Carbonates, there is no way the Salts will be effective. With "Traditional" Whole House Water Softening, the Water Treatment Appliance actually removes the Hard Water Minerals before the water is distributed to the entire home or business, then allowing the Washing Machine, Dishwasher, Water Heater, Showers, Bathtubs, and other water bearing appliances to perform their tasks as specified by their manufacturer. These Water Softeners typically attach to the main water line of the entire home or business, and virtually exchange equal amounts of Salt for equal amounts of Hardness regardless of the incoming hardness rating. Then, as the total capacity of the Softener becomes exhausted for the batch of water it has treated, the Control Valve automatically Regenerates the system with a new batch of Salt-Softened Water to use in the home or business. And, when you treat the water for the entire home, you reap the benefits of Protecting ALL of the Plumbing, Fixtures, Faucets, Valves, Appliances, and other household items from Scale and Hard Water Destruction. Visit our Web Site for more information: www.puresafe.com Thanks and Hope this helps. Victor Kernes

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