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Found this drive in an old unit. Can I set jumpers to slave or secondary? No labels on it to show settings

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Presuming you are referring to a hard drive ,it depends on a few things , firstly when you removed this drive from the older system, was it alone or was there a second hdd presesnt, if the drive was alone ,chances are that it was a single standalone drive and is probably set as master or standalone,found this drive in an - jumpers.gif
this is a good example of a jumper configuration on an older type [6 pin] ide interface hard drive, in my experience of these drives , to generalise ,
1 + 2 = master or single
3 + 4 = secondary
5 + 6 = cable select
if you follow this example and set the jumpers to 3 +4 ,on a working bootable system then you should be able to access the data from the other drive when your os has booted, if your system fails to boot check your boot sequence in the system bios is set to the correct drive , then restart the system, other than this, the best advice i would give is to experiment with differrent jumper shorts also try removing the jumper completely,
and always remember to turn the computer off ,unplug it , and earth yourself by touching the pcs case , every time you have to change anything within the pc,
i hope this has helped
please leave feedback if so
anthony !

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At this point, the computer is powered off and I'm ready to add the new hard drive as a second hard drive. Since there is only one hard drive installed at the start of the upgrade, the old hard drive is already installed as the master hard drive on the first IDE cable. The new hard drive is added as the slave hard drive on the first IDE cable (the same IDE cable as the old hard drive, but using the slave IDE connector).

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To get a close-up in which you can actually read the jumper label in the picture, I've taken two separate close-ups of the label and placed them side-by-side with the first showing the left-hand side of the label and the second showing the right-hand side of the label. Clicking on any picture makes an even larger image. For details of what each jumper setting means, see this Deskstar 120GXP Jumper Description at the IBM/Hitachi Storage Technical Support site.

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It can be confusing to know how to set the jumpers just from looking at the label. As you read across the left-hand and right-hand pictures, you'll notice that a setting for "DEVICE 0 (MASTER)" appears twice. Same for "DEVICE 1 (SLAVE)". But the first mention applies to "16 HEADS" and the second mention applies to "32GB Clip". The Deskstar 120GXP Jumper Description does a good job of clearing up the confusion, so rather than repeat it here I'll just strongly recommend you give it a look.

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The new hard drive will plug into this gray connector as the slave device. And you'll need a free 4-pin power connector like the one shown to connect the new hard drive to the power supply. Click on any picture to enlarge it. Like many things that connect inside the computer, both the IDE connector (the gray one, in this case) and the power connector are "keyed" by their shapes or some other means so that they cannot be plugged in "upside down". For example, if you enlarge the picture of the gray connector it's easy to see that the center of the connector includes a plastic bulge and a blocked out pin receptable to prevent it from being plugged in incorrectly.


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