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Found this drive in an old unit. Can I set jumpers to slave or secondary? No labels on it to show settings

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Presuming you are referring to a hard drive ,it depends on a few things , firstly when you removed this drive from the older system, was it alone or was there a second hdd presesnt, if the drive was alone ,chances are that it was a single standalone drive and is probably set as master or standalone,found this drive in an - jumpers.gif
this is a good example of a jumper configuration on an older type [6 pin] ide interface hard drive, in my experience of these drives , to generalise ,
1 + 2 = master or single
3 + 4 = secondary
5 + 6 = cable select
if you follow this example and set the jumpers to 3 +4 ,on a working bootable system then you should be able to access the data from the other drive when your os has booted, if your system fails to boot check your boot sequence in the system bios is set to the correct drive , then restart the system, other than this, the best advice i would give is to experiment with differrent jumper shorts also try removing the jumper completely,
and always remember to turn the computer off ,unplug it , and earth yourself by touching the pcs case , every time you have to change anything within the pc,
i hope this has helped
please leave feedback if so
anthony !

Posted on Apr 07, 2008

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select and see the S label position of the jumper.

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