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Graphics cards i have a 3 year old Intel PENTIUM-4 865GV chipset computer . please suggest the best graphics card for me in 5k range

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An Nvidia 7600GT AGP 256MB GDDR3 would be a nice card for that motherboard.

What is the "5K range" mean?

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What cpu will my mb support


http://www.fixya.com/support/t17051839-gateway_e210882_motherboard_specs

'Always learning'

What a commendable trait to have Mr.Valle. I respect that.

[When you are a member, just click on anyone's user name to view their account. I have been here over 3 years, and am an ex-expert moderator, is how I know ]

This solution is going to be rather long, I hope you can put up with me.

1) Was not aware that Gateway has an e210882 mobo.
(MOtherBOard)
Thought that was an Intel motherboard made especially for Dell.

Things we learn,

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gateway-eMachines-T5086-LGA775-Intel-Desktop-Motherboard-I-O-E210882-PERFECT-/300874674719?pt=Motherboards&hash=item460d87321f

Also lists it for the eMachines T5086 desktop computer, too.
My intel states the eMachines T5086 uses an Intel D945GCL motherboard.
Hmmm,....................

In the link above scroll the page down to the Specifications.

Two things to note here;

A) Processor socket
B) Motherboard chipset

The processor (CPU) socket is an Intel LGA 775 socket.
Also known as the Socket T,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_T

The motherboard chipset is just listed as - Chipset.
The motherboard chipset is an Intel 915G,

Here we see the Intel 915G chipset ONLY supports Single-Core
Intel processors.
Intel Pentium 4, and Intel Celeron D.

The Intel Celeron D is NOT a dual core processor, as the D suffix may seem to imply,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celeron_D#Celeron_D

"The Intel Celeron D processor works with the Intel 845 and 865 chipset families.
The D suffix actually has no official designation, and does not indicate that these models are dual-core.

It is used simply to distinguish this line of Celeron from the previous, lower performing Northwood and Willamette series, and also from the mobile series, the Celeron M (which also uses 3xx model numbers)

Unlike the Pentium D, the Celeron D is NOT a dual core processor."

Supports Intel Pentium 4, and Intel Celeron D processors; that have either a 533MegaHertz Front Side Bus; or an 800MHz FSB.

And use the LGA 775 processor socket,

A) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Pentium_4_microprocessors#Prescott_.2890.C2.A0nm.29_2

B) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Celeron_microprocessors#Celeron_D_.28single-core.29

[Note* MT/s is MegaTransfers per Second.
Thought to be a more accurate method of measuring, than using the MegaHertz method. MHz.

[ Incidentally;
Mega = approximately 1 Million.
Giga = approximately 1 Billion.
Hertz stands for Cycles per Second.
Named after a man with the last name of Hertz.

A Processor (CPU), that is stated to operate at 2.4GHz, is the same thing as stating it will operate at 2400MHz.

2400 Million Cycles per Second.
Has a frequency rate ('Speed') of 2400 Million Cycles per Second ]

That is for CPU support.

As for graphics card support, let's go back to the Ebay link, and click on a photo.........

Immediately above the specifications are photos. One large main photo, and 5 smaller views.
I invite you to click on the Top small view, and the one to the Right.
Picture 2 of 5.

Here you see the two White - PCI expansion slots.
Motherboard mounted in the computer case, the long Black expansion slot above them; is a PCI Express x16 slot.

Below them is a Black - PCI Express x1 slot.

The expansion slot you want to use for a graphics card, is the PCI Express x16 slot.

When the PCI Express technology first came out, it wasn't even named PCI Express yet.
Upgrade versions through the years are;

PCI Express 1.0a
PCI Express 1.1
PCI Express 2.0
PCI Express 2.1
,and presently it is PCI Express 3.0

How to know which PCI Express technology, is used for your motherboard?
Simple. Look at the motherboard chipset.
Looking back at the Intel 915G chipset again,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_chipsets#Pentium_4.2FPentium_D.2FPentium_EE_chipsets

Here we see it was brought out in June of 2004.
The PCI Express 1.1 technology did not come out, until 2005,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express#PCI_Express_1.1

This means to me, your motherboard utilizes the PCI Express 1.0a technology.
Since it was on the cusp of development, I'll bet it is actually based on the PCI Express 1.1 technology, though.

PCI Express 2.0 and PCI-Express 2.1; are Backward Compatible, with PCI Express 1.1

Stated another way;
A motherboard utilizing the PCI Express 1.1 technology, will support a graphics card based on the PCI Express 2.0 technology, or PCI Express 2.1 technology.

"PCIe 2.0 motherboard slots are fully backward compatible with PCIe v1.x cards.

PCIe 2.0 cards are also generally backward compatible with PCIe 1.x motherboards, using the available bandwidth of PCI Express 1.1.

Overall, graphic cards or motherboards designed for v2.0 will work with the other being v1.1 or v1.0a."

[ v = Version ]

You will not get the full capability of the PCI Express 2.0 graphics card, or PCI Express 2.1 graphics card.

Will you notice? Doubt it unless you plan on running the newer intensive games. Your processor won't support them anyhow.

[ A graphics card has it's own Processor, and ram memory.
The Graphics Processing Unit {GPU}, and graphics memory.

Doesn't need to borrow from the system resources; the Processor and Ram Memory on the motherboard. (System resources)

However, the graphics information still needs to pass through the Processor. This can be a 'bottleneck', if the processor can't keep up.

Also;
I just stopped using a Gateway 7200X, whose motherboard has an Intel 915G motherboard chipset.
I was using an ATI Radeon HD5450 graphics card on it.

The ATI Radeon HD5450 is based on the PCI Express 2.1 technology.

Not really a graphics card to 'write home to Mom about'.
I am using two monitors at once though, and it supports my Adobe Photoshop 7 really well.

( HP 2009m - 20 inch widescreen LCD monitor, and an
RCA L26HD31, HDTV as a second monitor. A 26 inch HDTV ]

So you know that your motherboard will support a PCI Express graphics card, based on either the PCI-E 2.0 technology, or PCI-E 2.1 technology.

(The PCI Express slot has a Lock on one end. It looks as though you GENTLY press down, to install a graphics card.
This = No.
You Gently lift UP on the Lock a little )

The next thing you need to be concerned with, is what the Power Requirement for the graphics card is.

This should be stated in the System Requirement section, of the information about the specifications of the graphics card.

Be aware however, that the Wattage stated is for a COMPLETE computer system, and not the graphics card alone.

For example;
States 400 Watts.
Means power needed for a gamer type motherboard, the CPU, Ram Memory, optical drive/s, and fans.

The graphics card manufacturer builds a computer test system, based on the best hardware components.

This way they will know the power requirement they have stated, will work.

Still don't know of any graphics card's out there, that use more than 150 Watts by themselves. However I may be 'out of touch'.

Your motherboard probably needs 85 Watts.
Each ram memory module uses about 15 watts.

CD/DVD drive about 25 watts.
EACH fan uses 2 to 3 Watts.

If ALL of the LED lights were on at once, they would use less than 1 Watt, and are not worth worrying about when determining wattage usage.

You'll have to look your CPU up by it's spec's, and see what the Maximum Wattage used is.
This is under the heading -> TDP
Thermal Design Point.

For additional questions please post in a Comment.
If you need me to clarify any of the statements above, post back in a Comment.

Regards,
joecoolvette

Mar 12, 2013 | Motherboards

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What would be the best compatible 512 MB GPU(with shader 3 or 4) working with P4I45GV 3.00 /P4 2.4 GHZ/1 Gb ram ?


http://www.asrock.com/MB/overview.asp?Model=P4i45GV%20R5.0

Any of them Shubham.

If we are to discern by a few known statements;

1) It is believed in some 'geek communities', that using the same manufacturer of motherboard chipset, and graphics chipset; to be a good thing.

For example an AMD motherboard chipset 'plays well' with an AMD ATI graphics chipset;

Nvidia motherboard chipset 'plays well' with Nvidia graphics chipset.

Intel motherboard chipset with Intel graphics..............no wait,....... there is no Intel graphics chipset, unless it is -> Integrated Graphics.
[ Intel GMA ]

(Integrated Graphics is also said as OnBoard graphics. ON the motherBOARD)

2) DOES NOT MATTER what graphics memory type is used.

Motherboard can use DDR Sdram ram memory, and graphics card can use GDDR5.

Why?
Because the graphics card has it's own Processor, and Ram Memory.

Graphics Processing Unit, or GPU; is the Processor,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPU

Graphics memory is the ram memory.

Operates independent of the system resources.
Processor, and Ram Memory.

The graphics expansion slot on the P4I45GV (P4 i 45GV), is an AGP slot.
Accelerated Graphics Port,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGP

It will use an AGP 4X, or AGP 8X graphics card.
Use an AGP 8X.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/search.asp?keywords=agp+graphics+card+512mb

REMEMBER;

1) ALWAYS follow Anti-Static Precautions.

2) INSTALL the software for the graphics card F-I-R-S-T,
(Drivers and 'control panel')

THEN unplug the computer from power, follow Anti-Static Precautions, and Physically plug the graphics card into the motherboard, and install.

3) L@@k at the system requirements (Minimum) for the graphics card.
Specifically the Power Supply requirements. You need a Power Supply with enough Wattage, to handle the graphics card.

[ Handles the graphics card, and -> Motherboard, Processor, Ram Memory, and peripherals; Internal and External.
{Harddrive/s, optical drive/s; Internal
Mouse, Keyboard, external harddrive, etc; External ]

For additional questions please post in a Comment.
Regards,
joecoolvette

Nov 17, 2012 | Motherboards

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Which is the best graphic card for intel DG41RQ mother board


I have a motherboard intel dg41rq and intel core 2 duo E7200 and nvidia geforce 9500 GT and 4gb ram (DDR3).It will work with call of duty black ops 2 and FIFA 13.So your done.

Oct 02, 2012 | Intel DG41RQ Motherboard CPU Bundle - ...

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Does this board have anyway getting the Bios Cracked/Flash with.


Mike,

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/How-to-Overclock-a-Socket-775-Pentium-4/198

From Gabriel Torres and Daniel Barros,

"On Intel i915P, and i925x chipsets, Intel created a protection against overclocking, making Pentium 4 processors overclocking extremely difficult."

Read the article.

Point?
Depends on which Intel motherboard chipset series you are talking about, and what in your mind constitutes a 'higher end CPU', for it.

Let's look at the Intel 915 series, and Intel 945 series of motherboard chipsets,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_intel_chipsets#Pentium_4.2FPentium_D.2FPentium_EE_chipsets

Let's start with the Intel 82915P through Intel 82915GV chipsets;

The highest FSB support is 800MegaHertz (Frequency rate)
Highest core technology is Pentium 4, SINGLE-core processors.

Although the Pentium 4's used may use the Socket T processor socket, (LGA 775), the chipsets will not support dual core Intel processors.

Why?
I have to 'bring you up to speed'. This is the easiest way to do it, IMHO,

A) http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/209

B) http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/235

C) http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/270

D) http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Inside-Intel-Core-Microarchitecture/313

Now it breaks down to individual Intel Northbridge chipset versions.

[Wait. One, more primer in case you are not aware;

Chip and Chipset are slang terms for I.C.
Integrated Circuit,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_circuit

The motherboard chipset for the chipset series you have listed, uses a Northbridge chip, and a Southbridge chip.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Motherboard_diagram.svg

The Northbridge chip handles the faster capabilities of a computer.
Handles the Processor, Ram Memory, and HIGH-speed graphics.

A graphics card installed in a PCI expansion slot, is NOT high-speed graphics.
Integrated graphics is NOT high-speed graphics.
High-speed graphics is AGP, and PCI-Express.

The Southbridge chip handles the slower capabilities of a computer.
Handles anything installed in a;

1) PCI Bus: Whether it is in a PCI expansion slot, or Integrated Graphics attached to a PCI Bus.
2) IDE Bus:
3) SATA Bus:
4) USB Bus:
5) Ethernet
6) Audio (Sound)

The Northbridge for Intel is the MCH. Memory Controller Hub.

Continued in a Comment.

Jul 13, 2012 | Intel Desktop Board D945GNT Motherboard...

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I need the manual for the Abit TH7 raid motherboard to match the 1.4G intel Pentium 4 processor


The old Abit TH7 RAID mobo, ay?

http://www.motherboards.org/reviews/motherboards/925_2.html


The Socket 478 motherboard uses an Intel 82850 Northbridge chip, and Intel 82801BA Southbridge chip, for the motherboard chipset.
(ICH2 is 82801BA)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_intel_chipsets#Pentium_4_chipsets

(Intel's term for their Northbridge chip is MCH. Memory Controller Hub,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northbridge_%28computing%29

The Northbridge chip handles the faster capabilities of the computer.
The Southbridge chip handles the slower capabilities.

The Northbridge chip handles the Processor, Ram Memory, and High-speed graphics.
AGP and PCI-Express are high-speed graphics.

{The Abit TH7 RAID mobo has an Accelerated Graphics Port expansion slot, for a graphics card. AGP)

A graphics (Video) card inserted into a PCI expansion slot, or Integrated Graphics,
is Not high-speed graphics.

(Integrated Graphics is also referred to as OnBoard Graphics.
On the motherBoard )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Motherboard_diagram.svg

As you can see in the chart on Wikipedia the FSB support for the Intel 850 chipset (Intel 82850) is 400MHz.

In conclusion, you know now that you can use an Intel Pentium 4 processor,
A) That fits in a Socket 478 processor socket,

B) Has a maximum Front Side Bus frequency rate ('Speed') of 400MegaHertz. (FSB 400MHz)

Here is a link to the Motherboard Manual (PDF file format),

http://www.motherboards.org/mobot/manuals/Abit/

Scroll about three-quarters down the page, until you come the heading in the left column -
th7.pdf

Left-click on Download to the right.

For additional questions please post in a Comment.

Regards,
joecoolvette

Jul 02, 2011 | Abit TH7-RAID Motherboard

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Dg41 is the best


Hi,

Please get DG41/CN/TX motherboards it the best. this is due to fact that it carries a better graphic resolution card, lates technology DDR3 SD RAM ram, etc.

Intel DG41CN Motherboard

  • Form Factor: Micro ATX
  • Compatibility: PC
  • Chipset: Intel G41 Express
  • Compatible Processors: Intel Celeron, Intel Pentium, Intel Core2 Duo, Intel Core2 Quad
  • Video Interface: PCI Express x16
  • Storage Controller Type(s): Serial ATA II x 4


  • Intel DG41TX Motherboard
    • Form Factor: Micro ATX
    • Compatibility: PC
    • Chipset: Intel G41 Express
    • Compatible Processors: Intel Celeron, Intel Pentium, Intel Xeon, Intel Core2 Duo, Intel Core2 Quad
    • Front Side Bus Speed: 1333 MHz
    • Video Interface: PCI Express


    Regards,

    Pourmoi

    Dec 23, 2010 | Intel DG31PR Motherboard

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    My motherboard is D101 GGC. can I use any graphics card that supports pixel shrader 3. solution please


    The Intel D101GGC motherboard has one - PCI-Express x16 slot, used for a graphics card.

    (The long slot that is right above the CMOS battery, and is below the Northbridge chipset)

    For the Northbridge chipset it uses the ATI Radeon Xpress 200 chipset.

    It would be best to buy a graphics card that uses an AMD ATI GPU. (Graphics Processing Unit

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPU )

    HOWEVER, it is not a necessity. You can use a graphics card with an Nvidia GPU.

    It's just better to have the same manufacturer of the Northbridge chipset, and the GPU of the graphics card, to be the same.
    They 'Play Nice' with each other.

    Although a graphics card has it's own processor, (GPU), and graphics memory, the Processor on the motherboard can be a limiting factor.

    (Processor on the motherboard is part of the System Resources. The other part of the System Resources is the Ram Memory)

    If you don't have a powerful enough Processor, (System Resources), you will have a 'Bottleneck' of graphics information.

    Fortunately you are only wanting to use a graphics card that has Pixel Shader 3, and your Intel Pentium 4 processor, should do just fine.

    (Is this for the Sims 3?)

    This is the download page for the Motherboard Manual, for the Intel D101GGC motherboard, on Intel Support,

    http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d101ggc/sb/CS-029351.htm

    Left-click on the top file name listed in blue,
    D101GGC Technical Product Specification [PDF]

    This is a PDF file. After you click on the link, it may take a few seconds before the first page comes up.

    I advise that you do not start looking through the PDF file, until it has fully downloaded.
    You may break the download connection if you do.

    Should you wish to save a copy of this motherboard manual to your computer, you may want to do this.

    (So you can burn it off to CD disk for safe storage, and also so you can delete it off of your computer, to have more harddrive space)

    At the top of the PDF file you will see some icons.
    Click on the Floppy Disk icon.
    It's the second icon from the left.
    (AFTER the file has fully downloaded)

    If you hover your mouse cursor over this icon, it will briefly reveal,
    'Click to save this file to your computer, or another location'

    After you click on the Floppy disk icon a small window will come up.
    (Save a copy...)

    At the bottom of this window you will see File name:
    and a box to the right of it.
    Write down the file name. Makes it easier so you can find it later.

    Now go to the bottom right of the small window, and click on - Save

    This file will go to your desktop screen, or your My Documents folder. (Documents for Vista)
    (Start>My Documents for Windows XP)

    Do you have some graphics cards in mind, or would you like an example to start from?

    Dec 20, 2009 | Intel D101GGC Motherboard

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    Graphic card for intel (r) 8291g/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family?


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    New Graphics card needed


    NVIDIA FX series are very good graphics cards and will run OK on your system

    Sep 26, 2008 | Intel Motherboard

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    Gaming


    Hi sunee, when a motherboard has an integrated graphics card it's something you can not see. (Integrated mean part of the board). The Intel you have has an 865GV chipset (No card slot). You'll need to enter your bios & find your graphics card. The bad part of a integrated video card is it shares your main system memory to function. So if you set the memory usage to say 128MB & your PC has a total of 512MB your video card takes 128MB leaving your system to run 384Mb.
    This link is drivers for your 865GV chipset Intel board.
    http://downloadcenter.intel.com/filter_results.aspx?strTypes=all&ProductID=1049&OSFullName=Windows*+XP+Professional&lang=eng&strOSs=44&submit=Go%21
    This link shows your board & its specifications.
    http://www.firingsquad.com/hw/4096/FIC_P4M-865GV/

    You can add a PCI video card to free system memory.
    I suggest you check your manual. You are looking to see if your bios will allow you to use a PCI video card.

    Mike

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