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Maxtor IDE Hard Drive

I'm trying to hook up my old Maxtor IDE hard drive into my newer dell. The drive is on it's own cable, set as the master, but the computer keeps saying that it can't read it. We fired it up on a computer yesterday so I know it's working fine, any ideas?

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  • stlsig Apr 05, 2008

    Thank You. I understand what you're saying, but I think I left out some very important information:


    1. My Dell is already running with another hard drive. I'm trying to hook this one up only to attain files. So it's not being used to boot the computer. does that make sense?

    2. The old computer had a XP as well as the new one.

    3. If none of these things matter, how do I "repair" the hard drive.
    Thank You

  • Dellerrella Dec 24, 2008

    but i cant see to find the correct cable inside the new dell pc? the new dell is using a smaller colored cable but my hard drive will require the big flat gray cable. how do i do this? i need my files

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You hard drive has drivers and was set to a different computer, thus enviroment. To make that hard drive work on your new computer - the Operating System will have to have a repair done to it - if you do a repair - you will not lose any docs or email, but, you will have to re-install programs to see the re-done Operating System, then you will have to load all the drivers that operate your new dell computer - if the new dell was not designed for XP and only vista - it will never read that Hard Drive till you install Vista on it.

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  • Hollyecho Montgomery
    Hollyecho Montgomery Apr 05, 2008

    Ah, sorry, yes I misunderstood! No, it should be seen. Now that I understand.... (sorry)



    Make sure the drive is set to cable select, since it is not the master drive of the computer. (I have seen that work, even when it is on its own cable - where the master setting would be the logical choice) in disk management, check to see if the disk is "initiated" -



    Let me know.....

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