WINS could not come up due to missing/corrupt... (by 2 users)

If you have problems with the swap file, that needs to be corrected.  WINS,
you can usually live without.  In it's default configuration, SBS sets up
WINS in the server, and then configures the clients not to use it!  I have
tried deleting WINS, that works, and I have tried tweaking DCHP to instruct
the clients to use WINS, that also works.  I don't know why MS set SBS up
that way!

Mal Osborne
MCSE Mensa

"Jeff Middleton [SBS-MVP]" <j @cfisolutions.com> wrote in message

Ran the chkdsk but everything checked out fine.  Replaced the NIC as Steve suggested but still get the same messages.

  "Jeff Middleton [SBS-MVP]" <j @cfisolutions.com> wrote in message   I suggest that you need to run a chkdsk on that system drive to make sure you don't have a serious problem on your hands. I would not accept the solution that a page file on a different partition has solve the problem.  It may make that message go away but there's a reason that the pagefile on the system partition is not behaving correctly and that would concern me.

  There was an article in the past month or so with Windows NT Magazine concerning a swapfile corruption that might be interesting to hunt down at the www.winntmag.com site. I would keep after this and even call MS if you can't get if resolved alone. I would not ignore this.
    J Schilling <s @montana.com> wrote in message     I deleted the paging file and recreated it as per your instructions.  However after recreating it and rebooting I got the message "your system is running without a properly sized page file.  I increased the size to 512 but still got the the error again.  Not until I added a page file to another drive did this error go away.  I also keep getting WIN database corrupted error.

    Any other ideas?

    Thanks
      "Jeff Middleton [SBS-MVP]" <j @cfisolutions.com> wrote in message       Right-click My computer | Properties | Performance | virtual Memory | Size....set it to 0

      Reboot, you get an error on boot up about not having a properly sized pagefile...ignore the error.

      Reverse the process above and create a file at least 256K or RAM x 1.5 in size.  Reboot.
        J Schilling <s @montana.com> wrote in message         I got both the page file error & the WINS error at the same time.  
        How do I kill the swap file?

        Thanks
        John
          "Jeff Middleton [SBS-MVP]" <j @cfisolutions.com> wrote in message           If the problems originated with the swap file size change, yes , kill the swap file, reboot, recreate, reboot.
            J Schilling <s @montana.com> wrote in message             Jeff,
            I have 1.3GB of free disk space on my <c> system drive.  I'm not getting any out of disk space messages in the Event Viewer Log.  Is it possible to remove the paging file?

            Thanks,
            John
              "Jeff Middleton [SBS-MVP]" <j @cfisolutions.com> wrote in message               A corrupt paging file can cause almost any symptom.

              A full hard drive would also cause the problem you describe, you should check the Event Viewer to see if it's not full of a bunch of errors and that you may just be out of disk space.
                J Schilling <s @montana.com> wrote in message                 Jeff,

                I failed to list 1 other message that I got after rebooting the server.  "Low on virt

I'm running out of ideas off the top of my head.

This may be worth a check.
We had a similar problem last week on a SBS Server (ACER 1100E.)
WINS database constantly corrupted.
The problem was a server NIC the was slowly dying.
We changed the NIC.(The correct way.)
Rebuilt the WINS .MDB and log.
Fixed the problem.

Regards

Steve A

Installed a new NIC but still have the same old problems.  When I tried to
rebuild the wins.mdb I get the message "WINS encountered an error while
processing the command".  Deleted all wins.mdb & jet*.logs but still have
the corrupt db message.

Thanks
John

I suggest that you need to run a chkdsk on that system drive to make sure you don't have a serious problem on your hands. I would not accept the solution that a page file on a different partition has solve the problem.  It may make that message go away but there's a reason that the pagefile on the system partition is not behaving correctly and that would concern me.

There was an article in the past month or so with Windows NT Magazine concerning a swapfile corruption that might be interesting to hunt down at the www.winntmag.com site. I would keep after this and even call MS if you can't get if resolved alone. I would not ignore this.
  J Schilling <s @montana.com> wrote in message   I deleted the paging file and recreated it as per your instructions.  However after recreating it and rebooting I got the message "your system is running without a properly sized page file.  I increased the size to 512 but still got the the error again.  Not until I added a page file to another drive did this error go away.  I also keep getting WIN database corrupted error.

  Any other ideas?

  Thanks
    "Jeff Middleton [SBS-MVP]" <j @cfisolutions.com> wrote in message     Right-click My computer | Properties | Performance | virtual Memory | Size....set it to 0

    Reboot, you get an error on boot up about not having a properly sized pagefile...ignore the error.

    Reverse the process above and create a file at least 256K or RAM x 1.5 in size.  Reboot.
      J Schilling <s @montana.com> wrote in message       I got both the page file error & the WINS error at the same time.  
      How do I kill the swap file?

      Thanks
      John
        "Jeff Middleton [SBS-MVP]" <j @cfisolutions.com> wrote in message         If the problems originated with the swap file size change, yes , kill the swap file, reboot, recreate, reboot.
          J Schilling <s @montana.com> wrote in message           Jeff,
          I have 1.3GB of free disk space on my <c> system drive.  I'm not getting any out of disk space messages in the Event Viewer Log.  Is it possible to remove the paging file?

          Thanks,
          John
            "Jeff Middleton [SBS-MVP]" <j @cfisolutions.com> wrote in message             A corrupt paging file can cause almost any symptom.

            A full hard drive would also cause the problem you describe, you should check the Event Viewer to see if it's not full of a bunch of errors and that you may just be out of disk space.
              J Schilling <s @montana.com> wrote in message               Jeff,

              I failed to list 1 other message that I got after rebooting the server.  "Low on virtual memory, increase size of paging file" (this is not the exact message, my memory is failing me.  I did increase the size of the paging file for the <c> system drive to initial 384 max 512.

              I had check the article Q238167 befo

I deleted the paging file and recreated it as per your instructions.  However after recreating it and rebooting I got the message "your system is running without a properly sized page file.  I increased the size to 512 but still got the the error again.  Not until I added a page file to another drive did this error go away.  I also keep getting WIN database corrupted error.

Any other ideas?

Thanks
  "Jeff Middleton [SBS-MVP]" <j @cfisolutions.com> wrote in message   Right-click My computer | Properties | Performance | virtual Memory | Size....set it to 0

  Reboot, you get an error on boot up about not having a properly sized pagefile...ignore the error.

  Reverse the process above and create a file at least 256K or RAM x 1.5 in size.  Reboot.
    J Schilling <s @montana.com> wrote in message     I got both the page file error & the WINS error at the same time.  
    How do I kill the swap file?

    Thanks
    John
      "Jeff Middleton [SBS-MVP]" <j @cfisolutions.com> wrote in message       If the problems originated with the swap file size change, yes , kill the swap file, reboot, recreate, reboot.
        J Schilling <s @montana.com> wrote in message         Jeff,
        I have 1.3GB of free disk space on my <c> system drive.  I'm not getting any out of disk space messages in the Event Viewer Log.  Is it possible to remove the paging file?

        Thanks,
        John
          "Jeff Middleton [SBS-MVP]" <j @cfisolutions.com> wrote in message           A corrupt paging file can cause almost any symptom.

          A full hard drive would also cause the problem you describe, you should check the Event Viewer to see if it's not full of a bunch of errors and that you may just be out of disk space.
            J Schilling <s @montana.com> wrote in message             Jeff,

            I failed to list 1 other message that I got after rebooting the server.  "Low on virtual memory, increase size of paging file" (this is not the exact message, my memory is failing me.  I did increase the size of the paging file for the <c> system drive to initial 384 max 512.

            I had check the article Q238167 before and everything seems to be ok.  Is it possible to have a corrupt paging file which could be causing the WINS problem?

            Thank you
            John
              "Jeff Middleton [SBS-MVP]" <j @cfisolutions.com> wrote in message               Sounds like to me you are chasing the wrong problem. Sounds like either you have change the default IP on the server or the system partition drive letter?

              check this kb

              Q238167 - How to Configure and Troubleshoot Small Business Server

              J Schilling <s @montana.com> wrote in message               > After rebooting my 4.5 smallbiz server I received the above message.  Per
              > the message I tried to restore the wins.mdb database.  This did not work,

Right-click My computer | Properties | Performance | virtual Memory | Size....set it to 0

Reboot, you get an error on boot up about not having a properly sized pagefile...ignore the error.

Reverse the process above and create a file at least 256K or RAM x 1.5 in size.  Reboot.
  J Schilling <s @montana.com> wrote in message   I got both the page file error & the WINS error at the same time.  
  How do I kill the swap file?

  Thanks
  John
    "Jeff Middleton [SBS-MVP]" <j @cfisolutions.com> wrote in message     If the problems originated with the swap file size change, yes , kill the swap file, reboot, recreate, reboot.
      J Schilling <s @montana.com> wrote in message       Jeff,
      I have 1.3GB of free disk space on my <c> system drive.  I'm not getting any out of disk space messages in the Event Viewer Log.  Is it possible to remove the paging file?

      Thanks,
      John
        "Jeff Middleton [SBS-MVP]" <j @cfisolutions.com> wrote in message         A corrupt paging file can cause almost any symptom.

        A full hard drive would also cause the problem you describe, you should check the Event Viewer to see if it's not full of a bunch of errors and that you may just be out of disk space.
          J Schilling <s @montana.com> wrote in message           Jeff,

          I failed to list 1 other message that I got after rebooting the server.  "Low on virtual memory, increase size of paging file" (this is not the exact message, my memory is failing me.  I did increase the size of the paging file for the <c> system drive to initial 384 max 512.

          I had check the article Q238167 before and everything seems to be ok.  Is it possible to have a corrupt paging file which could be causing the WINS problem?

          Thank you
          John
            "Jeff Middleton [SBS-MVP]" <j @cfisolutions.com> wrote in message             Sounds like to me you are chasing the wrong problem. Sounds like either you have change the default IP on the server or the system partition drive letter?

            check this kb

            Q238167 - How to Configure and Troubleshoot Small Business Server

            J Schilling <s @montana.com> wrote in message             > After rebooting my 4.5 smallbiz server I received the above message.  Per
            > the message I tried to restore the wins.mdb database.  This did not work, I
            > still received the same message.  I then deleted the wins.mdb file & the
            > jet*.log files.  This also did not work.
            >
            > I've removed the WINS service & reinstalled it but get the same
            > missing/corrupt database error.
            >
            > Also when I try to run DHCP manager and try to connect to the server I get
            > the message "Unable to connect to DHCP server at *Local Machine*. Server may
            > be down or DHCP service not

I got both the page file error & the WINS error at the same time.  
How do I kill the swap file?

Thanks
John
  "Jeff Middleton [SBS-MVP]" <j @cfisolutions.com> wrote in message   If the problems originated with the swap file size change, yes , kill the swap file, reboot, recreate, reboot.
    J Schilling <s @montana.com> wrote in message     Jeff,
    I have 1.3GB of free disk space on my <c> system drive.  I'm not getting any out of disk space messages in the Event Viewer Log.  Is it possible to remove the paging file?

    Thanks,
    John
      "Jeff Middleton [SBS-MVP]" <j @cfisolutions.com> wrote in message       A corrupt paging file can cause almost any symptom.

      A full hard drive would also cause the problem you describe, you should check the Event Viewer to see if it's not full of a bunch of errors and that you may just be out of disk space.
        J Schilling <s @montana.com> wrote in message         Jeff,

        I failed to list 1 other message that I got after rebooting the server.  "Low on virtual memory, increase size of paging file" (this is not the exact message, my memory is failing me.  I did increase the size of the paging file for the <c> system drive to initial 384 max 512.

        I had check the article Q238167 before and everything seems to be ok.  Is it possible to have a corrupt paging file which could be causing the WINS problem?

        Thank you
        John
          "Jeff Middleton [SBS-MVP]" <j @cfisolutions.com> wrote in message           Sounds like to me you are chasing the wrong problem. Sounds like either you have change the default IP on the server or the system partition drive letter?

          check this kb

          Q238167 - How to Configure and Troubleshoot Small Business Server

          J Schilling <s @montana.com> wrote in message           > After rebooting my 4.5 smallbiz server I received the above message.  Per
          > the message I tried to restore the wins.mdb database.  This did not work, I
          > still received the same message.  I then deleted the wins.mdb file & the
          > jet*.log files.  This also did not work.
          >
          > I've removed the WINS service & reinstalled it but get the same
          > missing/corrupt database error.
          >
          > Also when I try to run DHCP manager and try to connect to the server I get
          > the message "Unable to connect to DHCP server at *Local Machine*. Server may
          > be down or DHCP service not started".
          >
          > I've verified that Primary WINS server address is set correctly "10.0.0.2"
          > in the TCP/IP Properties.
          >
          > Any ideas on what I should do next?
          >
          > All my clients can still access the smallbiz server.
          >
          > Thanks for the help.
          >
          >

If the problems originated with the swap file size change, yes , kill the swap file, reboot, recreate, reboot.
  J Schilling <s @montana.com> wrote in message   Jeff,
  I have 1.3GB of free disk space on my <c> system drive.  I'm not getting any out of disk space messages in the Event Viewer Log.  Is it possible to remove the paging file?

  Thanks,
  John
    "Jeff Middleton [SBS-MVP]" <j @cfisolutions.com> wrote in message     A corrupt paging file can cause almost any symptom.

    A full hard drive would also cause the problem you describe, you should check the Event Viewer to see if it's not full of a bunch of errors and that you may just be out of disk space.
      J Schilling <s @montana.com> wrote in message       Jeff,

      I failed to list 1 other message that I got after rebooting the server.  "Low on virtual memory, increase size of paging file" (this is not the exact message, my memory is failing me.  I did increase the size of the paging file for the <c> system drive to initial 384 max 512.

      I had check the article Q238167 before and everything seems to be ok.  Is it possible to have a corrupt paging file which could be causing the WINS problem?

      Thank you
      John
        "Jeff Middleton [SBS-MVP]" <j @cfisolutions.com> wrote in message         Sounds like to me you are chasing the wrong problem. Sounds like either you have change the default IP on the server or the system partition drive letter?

        check this kb

        Q238167 - How to Configure and Troubleshoot Small Business Server

        J Schilling <s @montana.com> wrote in message         > After rebooting my 4.5 smallbiz server I received the above message.  Per
        > the message I tried to restore the wins.mdb database.  This did not work, I
        > still received the same message.  I then deleted the wins.mdb file & the
        > jet*.log files.  This also did not work.
        >
        > I've removed the WINS service & reinstalled it but get the same
        > missing/corrupt database error.
        >
        > Also when I try to run DHCP manager and try to connect to the server I get
        > the message "Unable to connect to DHCP server at *Local Machine*. Server may
        > be down or DHCP service not started".
        >
        > I've verified that Primary WINS server address is set correctly "10.0.0.2"
        > in the TCP/IP Properties.
        >
        > Any ideas on what I should do next?
        >
        > All my clients can still access the smallbiz server.
        >
        > Thanks for the help.
        >
        >

Jeff,
I have 1.3GB of free disk space on my <c> system drive.  I'm not getting any out of disk space messages in the Event Viewer Log.  Is it possible to remove the paging file?

Thanks,
John
  "Jeff Middleton [SBS-MVP]" <j @cfisolutions.com> wrote in message   A corrupt paging file can cause almost any symptom.

  A full hard drive would also cause the problem you describe, you should check the Event Viewer to see if it's not full of a bunch of errors and that you may just be out of disk space.
    J Schilling <s @montana.com> wrote in message     Jeff,

    I failed to list 1 other message that I got after rebooting the server.  "Low on virtual memory, increase size of paging file" (this is not the exact message, my memory is failing me.  I did increase the size of the paging file for the <c> system drive to initial 384 max 512.

    I had check the article Q238167 before and everything seems to be ok.  Is it possible to have a corrupt paging file which could be causing the WINS problem?

    Thank you
    John
      "Jeff Middleton [SBS-MVP]" <j @cfisolutions.com> wrote in message       Sounds like to me you are chasing the wrong problem. Sounds like either you have change the default IP on the server or the system partition drive letter?

      check this kb

      Q238167 - How to Configure and Troubleshoot Small Business Server

      J Schilling <s @montana.com> wrote in message       > After rebooting my 4.5 smallbiz server I received the above message.  Per
      > the message I tried to restore the wins.mdb database.  This did not work, I
      > still received the same message.  I then deleted the wins.mdb file & the
      > jet*.log files.  This also did not work.
      >
      > I've removed the WINS service & reinstalled it but get the same
      > missing/corrupt database error.
      >
      > Also when I try to run DHCP manager and try to connect to the server I get
      > the message "Unable to connect to DHCP server at *Local Machine*. Server may
      > be down or DHCP service not started".
      >
      > I've verified that Primary WINS server address is set correctly "10.0.0.2"
      > in the TCP/IP Properties.
      >
      > Any ideas on what I should do next?
      >
      > All my clients can still access the smallbiz server.
      >
      > Thanks for the help.
      >
      >

A corrupt paging file can cause almost any symptom.

A full hard drive would also cause the problem you describe, you should check the Event Viewer to see if it's not full of a bunch of errors and that you may just be out of disk space.
  J Schilling <s @montana.com> wrote in message   Jeff,

  I failed to list 1 other message that I got after rebooting the server.  "Low on virtual memory, increase size of paging file" (this is not the exact message, my memory is failing me.  I did increase the size of the paging file for the <c> system drive to initial 384 max 512.

  I had check the article Q238167 before and everything seems to be ok.  Is it possible to have a corrupt paging file which could be causing the WINS problem?

  Thank you
  John
    "Jeff Middleton [SBS-MVP]" <j @cfisolutions.com> wrote in message     Sounds like to me you are chasing the wrong problem. Sounds like either you have change the default IP on the server or the system partition drive letter?

    check this kb

    Q238167 - How to Configure and Troubleshoot Small Business Server

    J Schilling <s @montana.com> wrote in message     > After rebooting my 4.5 smallbiz server I received the above message.  Per
    > the message I tried to restore the wins.mdb database.  This did not work, I
    > still received the same message.  I then deleted the wins.mdb file & the
    > jet*.log files.  This also did not work.
    >
    > I've removed the WINS service & reinstalled it but get the same
    > missing/corrupt database error.
    >
    > Also when I try to run DHCP manager and try to connect to the server I get
    > the message "Unable to connect to DHCP server at *Local Machine*. Server may
    > be down or DHCP service not started".
    >
    > I've verified that Primary WINS server address is set correctly "10.0.0.2"
    > in the TCP/IP Properties.
    >
    > Any ideas on what I should do next?
    >
    > All my clients can still access the smallbiz server.
    >
    > Thanks for the help.
    >
    >

Sounds like to me you are chasing the wrong problem. Sounds like either you have change the default IP on the server or the system partition drive letter?

check this kb

Q238167 - How to Configure and Troubleshoot Small Business Server

Jeff,

I failed to list 1 other message that I got after rebooting the server.  "Low on virtual memory, increase size of paging file" (this is not the exact message, my memory is failing me.  I did increase the size of the paging file for the <c> system drive to initial 384 max 512.

I had check the article Q238167 before and everything seems to be ok.  Is it possible to have a corrupt paging file which could be causing the WINS problem?

Thank you
John
  "Jeff Middleton [SBS-MVP]" <j @cfisolutions.com> wrote in message   Sounds like to me you are chasing the wrong problem. Sounds like either you have change the default IP on the server or the system partition drive letter?

  check this kb

  Q238167 - How to Configure and Troubleshoot Small Business Server

  J Schilling <s @montana.com> wrote in message   > After rebooting my 4.5 smallbiz server I received the above message.  Per
  > the message I tried to restore the wins.mdb database.  This did not work, I
  > still received the same message.  I then deleted the wins.mdb file & the
  > jet*.log files.  This also did not work.
  >
  > I've removed the WINS service & reinstalled it but get the same
  > missing/corrupt database error.
  >
  > Also when I try to run DHCP manager and try to connect to the server I get
  > the message "Unable to connect to DHCP server at *Local Machine*. Server may
  > be down or DHCP service not started".
  >
  > I've verified that Primary WINS server address is set correctly "10.0.0.2"
  > in the TCP/IP Properties.
  >
  > Any ideas on what I should do next?
  >
  > All my clients can still access the smallbiz server.
  >
  > Thanks for the help.
  >
  >