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Error 13-jam paper HP Laser 4+

Paper from m tray feeds okay, takes good print past fuser but stop short of coming out at the back. It is not crumpled or accordion like effect. It seems the two rollers is holding it of a sensor tells the roller to stop and not complete delivery. Whne paper pulled out by hand about one fourth is held between rolers.
But when papers are printed from the lower cassette there is no problem. It was working before until I took the unit outside and vacuum cleaned it. The back rollers passed the fusers have marking on both ends. Any thoughts.
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  • eladio Apr 02, 2008

    need advice

  • eladio Apr 02, 2008

    I found the thin balck plastic lever swings up and down freely.The spring looks okay. It appears this is not the problem. What else do you think I should look at.

  • eladio Apr 02, 2008

    How come the paper from lower tray (casette) is coming out with no hesitation through the same rollers in the fuser. Does the manual tray and lwer tray use the same rollers in one fuser? That puzzles me.

  • lollie1948 Apr 05, 2008

    I have 13 paper jam message and everything seems good with printer. No jams. I've rebooted and still have message

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HP LaserJet 4, 4m, 4 Plus and 4m Plus Series Printers - False Error Message 13 PAPER JAM ISSUE: After clearing all jammed paper from the HP LaserJet 4, 4m, 4 Plus, or 4m Plus series printer, the display still reads 13 Paper Jam . Even after cycling the power off and then back on, the error remains. SOLUTION: Open the rear door of the printer. There is a paper sensor near the upper right hand corner of the fusing assembly (just below the right edge of the long yellow warning sticker on the fuser) that can cause paper jam error messages even when there is no jammed paper in the printer. Toggle the thin black plastic lever up and down to make sure it is not stuck or sticky. The lever should be in the down position before closing the back of the printer. If the lever is stuck or missing, the printer will generate a false paper jam message. Hope it will help you !

Posted on Apr 02, 2008

  • Patrick St-Jean
    Patrick St-Jean Apr 02, 2008

    Clean your roller(with alcool) in the back of your printer, Sometime the sheet just sleep a little and it cause a paper jam....


  • Patrick St-Jean
    Patrick St-Jean Apr 02, 2008

    Let me check this tomorrow morning, i had this problem before....i'll be back to you !



    Thank you !

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